A Voyage of Discovery: Astrological Ages for the Tropical Zodiac

JUPITERASC

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Between the two types of astrological Ages, tropical has the advantage of using astronomy for both the transiting Age-indicator AND the Sign locations. Practicing siderealists have about a 4 degree difference in Sign-placements, which affects the Age start-dates by as much as 300 years; and, tropical astrologers who co-opt the sidereal zodiac for Ages-only purposes add at another 300 years to the endless,


opinion-based start-dates.
EIGHTEEN THOUSAND YEAR OLD DISCOVERY

Shows Someone Was In The Americas Way BEFORE The Clovis Culture :smile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbfM_u7NM
 

david starling

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The Mean setting of the tropical Age-indicator reaches tropical Aquarius in 2149. That's the effective start of the Aquarian Age under Uranian rulership, moving Saturn into a weaker, background Age condition.

Interesting that one opinion regarding the sidereal Aquarian Age start-date, notably that of Robert Hand, has that same year, 2149, obtained by using the Year 1 A.D. as the ingress of the Vernal Point into sidereal Pisces.
 

david starling

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The extremely well-known and much talked-about SIDEREAL Age-indicator position in a sidereal zodiac, has a nearly constant rate of continuous, retrograde-motion @ 71.6 years per 1 degree of transit.

However, to declare the actual start-date for the sidereal Age of Aquarius, it's also necessary to know the exact location of the sidereal Sign-boundaries, and THAT'S a matter of opinion.

The sidereal Aquarian Age formally begins when the chosen Age-indicator, (which is almost universally the Line of Intersection of Earth's orbital and equatorial planes), actually REACHES the Sign-boundary between sidereal Pisces and Aquarius. But, with the opinion-based disagreement over where that boundary should be located, one astrologer can have a sidereal Aquarian Age that's already begun, whereas another can have it beginning several Centuries in the future.
 

petosiris

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The extremely well-known and much talked-about SIDEREAL Age-indicator position in a sidereal zodiac, has a nearly constant rate of continuous, retrograde-motion @ 71.6 years per 1 degree of transit.

However, to declare the actual start-date for the sidereal Age of Aquarius, it's also necessary to know the exact location of the sidereal Sign-boundaries, and THAT'S a matter of opinion.

The sidereal Aquarian Age formally begins when the chosen Age-indicator, (which is almost universally the Line of Intersection of Earth's orbital and equatorial planes), actually REACHES the Sign-boundary between sidereal Pisces and Aquarius. But, with the opinion-based disagreement over where that boundary should be located, one astrologer can have a sidereal Aquarian Age that's already begun, whereas another can have it beginning several Centuries in the future.

Indian astrologers will reach the age of Aquarius way after Western siderealists using Aldebaran 15! :smile:
 

david starling

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Although this thread is specifically about a new method for determining astrological Ages tropically, in addition to sidereally, it was the sidereal Ages that first alerted everyone to the current concept of astrological Ages beginning in the 1930's.

For those new to the subject, the contrast between the two types of astrological Ages is important.

A connection between a Messianic Age linked to Precession of the Equinoxes through a sidereal zodiac, but not yet labeled "the Age of Aquarius", first appeared in print in the late 1890's.
 
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david starling

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Those who believe in a Messianic Age, in the context of Abrahamic religions, don't normally connect it to the astrological Age of Aquarius.

Conversely, those who believe in an Age of Aquarius don't normally or necessarily connect it with a Messianic Age.
 

petosiris

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Those who believe in a Messianic Age, in the context of Abrahamic religions, don't normally connect it to the astrological Age of Aquarius.

Conversely, those who believe in an Age of Aquarius don't normally or necessarily connect it with a Messianic Age.

Actually, the age of Aquarius originated as a (anti-)Messianic (Jesus Messiah) concept :smile:
 

david starling

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The Bible tells us that the second coming will occur only after an unseen worldwide tribulation, deception, wickedness and worship of a FALSE MESSIAH.

The original idea for the New Age was very unorthodox, and non-Biblical in many ways. It definitely wasn't a product of organized religion, although it did include the term "Second Coming".

It had a start date based on Precession of the Equinoxes, rather than the Bible. It used the older value of 2160 years per sidereal Precessional Age, now 2148 years, and had the New Age (not yet named "the Age of Aquarius") beginning in 2160.
 
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