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We know what tends to happen in the American collective consciousness when Uranus enters Gemini, right? War. Each time Uranus has entered the sign of the twins, it has become embroiled in conflict, sometimes with itself, sometimes with others. It still has enormous power, but half its people are illiterate, poor, uneducated or a combination of all three. This is partly explains the rise of the right, the blaming of others, and the rise of the oligarchy. I dread to think what will happen with this deranged lunatic and his troop of lobotomised fear-mongers but it was good to see a humble priest chastise the orange baboon so openly. Still, I fear the worst. Civl war before the end of his tenure. Maybe it’s what’s needed. He and his patron, the ghastly Musk, a Bond villain come flesh are showing us who they are. Some peope here have actually fallen under these monsters’ spell. How utterly stupid can these people be?
 
The attack on Fort Sumter is generally taken as the beginning of the American Civil War—the first shots fired. Certainly it was so taken at the time—citizens of Charleston were celebrating. The First Battle of Fort Sumter began on April 12, 1861, when South Carolina Militia artillery fired from shore on the Union garrison. These were (both sides agreed) the first shots of the war. The bombardment continued all day, watched by many happy civilians. The fort had been cut off from its supply line and surrendered the next day. Major Robert Anderson took the flag with him as they evacuated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Sumter
 

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Thought to be the Ending of the Civil War (the Fall of Richmond Virginia):
 

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Some of us recall through reincarnation, our lives during the Civil War: (dreams are helpful)

 

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From wiki-tree planned with others to have Abe Lincoln killed
from her rooming house where they met: Most of them were hanged after the war (1st woman hung)
Mary Elizabeth Surratt formerly Jenkins (owner of Surratt Tavern & Rooming house)
Born 4 May 1823 in Waterloo, Howard, Maryland

short bio here:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Jenkins-2705


Mary Surratt is the first woman hanged by the federal government

Feb 28, 2024 · Mary Jenkins Surratt (1820 or 1823 – 1865), accused and convicted of being in league with John Wilkes Booth (1838-1865), is hanged with three other conspirators (one of her sons took off for Canada, and was proven not to be involved)

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6389114/mary_elizabeth-surratt

The Neptune cj. closely to Uranus and both trine to Saturn is all I can find (no tob known) here to understand what went wrong in her life. Joining a group of terrorists, including John Wilkes Boothe, (Dr. Mudd lived close by her tavern) and the 3 who were hung along with her., although Mudd was not one of them.
She seems to have been religious and sincerely believed Lincoln was evil. (Neptune cj. Uranus)
mental issues exploited by Uranus?

I visited the Tavern/Rooming house once, its quite the same as it one was. Unassuming. The people who take care of it love to explain and next door they have a place where they do that and sell things. They told us where Dr. Mudd's house was and warned us that his family insisted that he was innocent and they were still in court 100 yrs later trying to remove the stain from their name and his. We tried to find the house with their directions but gave up. Couldn't find it.
Dr. Mudd is the one that Boothe went to in order to have his broken leg set, after jumping on a horse leaving the theater running away after shooting and killing the President.
 

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Thanks for these replies. How do you think the upcoming trial of Pluto from Aquarius to Uranus and Gemini will pan out? This provides some hope, does it not? Andre Barbaut’s bucket aspect of 2026 is something I’m rather holding onto.
 
Here's a chart for the opening shots of the American Civil War in 1861.
#30

Note: There will be no 21st century civil war, or anything like it, in the United States of America. If that's the subtext anyone is trying to promote, forget it.
As much as Putin or others might fantasize about it.
 
[Edit: I missed the first entrance of Uranus into Gemini.]

It looks like Uranus will enter Gemini at 07:47 (GMT) on 7 July 2025, conjunct Venus, which will have entered Gemini first.

For contrast, the Fort Sumter chart in post #2 above shows Mars conjunct Uranus in Gemini.

Uranus will back up into Taurus on November 8th.

Interestingly, when Uranus re-enters Gemini just after midnight (GMT) on 26 Apr 2026, it will again be conjunct Venus, which will have preceded Uranus into Gemini.
 

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Here's a chart of the opening of the Ft. Sumter bombardment. Hopefully a little easier to read.1737673923373.jpeg
 

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@MiddleMogs , I don't do mundane or predictive astrology (nor do I know how to interpret the Venus-Uranus trine with Pluto or the conjunction of Neptune, Saturn, and the Vertex at the apex of the blue triangle), but the July 7th chart (post #8) doesn't look too awful to me.

However, I'm glad you raised this topic. It's something I hadn't thought about. Thank you!
 
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Ref: "His name is still mud"

The old saying, "your name will be mud".....well still is for the Mudd family.
They lost the case in 2002, and I believe they lost the appeal case too!

Mary Mudd McHale said Saturday her family would explore other options after a federal appeals court dismissed their case, which sought to clear the name of her great-grandfather, Dr. Samuel Mudd.

Sometimes you just have to give up! https://www.cbsnews.com/news/for-now-his-names-still-mudd/

In 1865, a military tribunal convicted and sentenced Mudd to life in prison for helping Lincoln assassin John Wilkes Booth after setting Booth's broken leg. Booth stopped by Mudd's tobacco farm while trying to escape after shooting Lincoln.

Mudd claimed he knew nothing of the killing and was ignorant of any assassination plot. He was pardoned four years later after helping to battle an outbreak of yellow fever.
 
Here's a chart for the opening shots of the American Civil War in 1861.
#30

Note: There will be no 21st century civil war, or anything like it, in the United States of America. If that's the subtext anyone is trying to promote, forget it.
As much as Putin or others might fantasize about it.

FraterAC - HI, it's not a 'subtext anyone is trying to promote', whatever that means; it's a prediction. Prediction is, in astrology, founded on looking back at what has happened in the past when there have been similar transits. And, since America's 'birth', conflict, within itself and with other countries, has been a recurring theme. Now, it may well be the case that there won't be a civil war, and I hope that my forecast, based on archetypal patterns from the past is hypothesis that has some grounds worthy of consideration. America is polarised (UK english spelling here). It's still going through its Pluto return and has, at the helm, a man so egotistical and febrile of mind, that I would hesitate before ruling anything out so comprehensively. How do you belive the Uranus transit through Gemini will manifest then, if not through conflict of some kind?
 
With the way things are going right now with Trump/Elon and people being frustrated and crazy in general I wouldn't be surprised if maybe not a full on Civil War happened but some sort of major event or set of events that would cause some serious strife in the country. Though I think it looks more like the United States in the 1960s rather than the US in the 1860s, in terms of there not being a war but a lot of protests, riots, and other domestic conflict and such.
 
I hope that the supportive trine from Pluto will bring about transformative change that is for the better, but I doubt very much if that 'better' involves Trump. I realise that in some ways Trump mark II is different to Trump mark II, but America is a febrile place, where Fascits salutes are tolerated and people now live in fear. I trust that good will win and that good people will rise. If that's 'a subtext I'm trying to promote' , well, so be it.
 
a prediction
If someone has some real astrology to discuss, let's see it.
The transit of one or two planets through a sign hardly constitutes a prediction. That's the newspaper astrology equivalent of mundane astrology.
It might constitute propaganda, though.
 
If someone has some real astrology to discuss, let's see it.
The transit of one or two planets through a sign hardly constitutes a prediction. That's the newspaper astrology equivalent of mundane astrology.
It might constitute propaganda, though.
Well, with respect, this is the very subject which has been brought up time and time again by Chris Brennan on The Astrology Podcast. He has discussed his concern with Austin Coppock and others at some length. You, on the other hand, arrogantly dismiss a poster’s perfectly reasonable assertion with such disdain that it cannot go unchallenged. There are a number of other factors which come into play and while I may not be as experienced as you (you’ve offered little on this other than to sneer), I’m perfect entitled to an opinion, and, most opinions are formed from learning from others. So far, I’ll go with C Brennan and Austin Coppock ahead of you. We have a man at the helm in America who, as Mars retrogrades opposite Pluto in Aquarius, is waging war on science. As Trump comes for the scientists www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2025/01... he has cancelled almost all US government medical research. He's also cancelled communication on current medical crises. Mistrust of science is a fascist trait. It looks like the people of the USA are going to suffer for it. That will lead to unrest and - in my opinion - with Uranus about to enter Gemini, bring about unrest, at least. Maybe that’s not enough astrology for you but let’s keep it as simple as we can, yes ? How about you offer some rather than dismissing a contribution in such a lofty manner. Here writes a defensive Cancer moon (23) by the way, and with pugnatious Mars right on it at this moment, I'm up for the fight!
 
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