As a late-degree Leo Rising, do I listen to forecasts for Virgo Risings instead?

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I know Astrologers use Whole Signs to read charts but when I do the Placidus, it seems almost as if I am a Virgo Rising. I am curious to know, would I be better off listening to what a month has in store for Virgo Risings to get a better idea of my chart?

 
If your Ascendant is in Leo, then there's no reason to consider it to be in Virgo of have any Virgo influence on itself whatsoever.
The Ascendant is a point, not a planet, therefore, its position is precise, and it doesn't have a size, so it doesn't matter where it is in the sign for the matter of being in the sign.

When planets are very early or very late in a sign, they're influenced by the other sign since part of their mass is in the other sign, but their center remains in their sign.
That doesn't happen with the Ascendant since it doesn't have any mass.
 
My understanding is slightly different. I would look at both Sidereal and Tropical natal chart and you can do with a glance because the two are approximately 25 degrees apart now. So this would say your Sidereal natal chart (your soul's input according to Edgar Cayce) is also in Leo (Rising) albeit only 02 degrees or so. This is important I think to know....

But of course, we all have a favorite way of using Astrology and mine is tropical with the same default I keep all the time. Except for the study of the Maraka (death houses) then I am curious enough to switch to Sidereal whole signs Vedic with Dasas and sub-rulers

Your natal Moon intrigues me, because of the degree it falls in (tropical) puts your Moon in Sidereal same sign Virgo but right on the cusp. This may have something to say about your soul growth imo.

Cayce only mentioned the Sun-Moon & Asc in the soul chart for reincarnation-al purposes as far as I know that would be helpful to know in both systems of astrology.
 
THIS link is not the one I was looking for to explain further, but its still interesting to pass on for those interested even mildly:

Bottom line is - Cayce said the Tropical Chart is our personality (in this lifetime but other lives we lived will also be seen in this chart that we are working through) .....whereas the Sidereal Chart is the soul's growth chart - at least is how I understood him to say.

https://www.edgarcaycenyc.org/edgar-cayce-on-astrology-the-cosmos-the-self
The Cayce source believed that the Sidereal Zodiac was more accurate than the Tropical Zodiac used in the West. Reading 3376 - 2 states: “Though oft they are correct, more often ye find them at variance. For most astrologers are nearly 30 degrees off in the reckoning in the present.”

In a reading Cayce gave to a woman whom he said was an astrologer in ancient Egypt, he stated: “The Egyptian and Persian records are quite varied. If the entity would study astrology, do not put the signs in the Egyptian but rather in the Persian, for the Persian interpretations are more proficient than the Egyptian. The variations in time (due to precession) have been corrected by the Persians and not by the Egyptians. The Egyptian calculations are 30 degrees off.” (Reading 2011-3)
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You'll notice in this link above - the name Ry Redd is mentioned (the late Astrologer from Virginia Beach) He wrote a wonderful little hard to get book that can still be found online used. It's called "Toward a New Astrology" which explains what I'm trying to say. The thing about Redd's work is that it was pivitol and ground breaking in the Astrological field in some ways. Ironically, he died young but he did this work first. What he did is go to Cayce organization and had access back then in the 80s? to all the files- This was before modern day home computers. So everything he did, he did by hand. He did this because a Vedic Astrologer quite famous in his own right names B.V. Raman told Ry at a NY symposium that the problem Redd explained to him about Cayce & Reincarnation in the two charts - may be solved by finding the "LOKA" in a Sidereal chart. The Loka is a term used by a certain Vedic group of astrologers to explain angelic beings on various planes of existence.

Ry Redd explained to BV Raman that Cayce was so correct all the time in these astro readings about the people yet he himself (as an Astrologer) couldn't see how he'd know about them just from a tropical n. chart. The "Loka" was the key. But without the Sidereal chart you cannot know the Loka.

https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/loka
Rudolph Steiner the German mystic called it "Planetary Realms" whereas Cayce did the same - Vedics call it Loka (same idea)

Thus complementary 2 charts.

Loka (Sanskrit: Loka, lit. 'Planet') is a concept in Hinduism and other Indian religions, that may be translated as a planet, the universe, a plane, or a realm of existence. In some philosophies, it may also be interpreted as a mental state that one can experience.[1] A primary concept in several Indian religions is the idea that different lokas are home to various divine beings, and one takes birth in such realms based on their karma

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loka
 
Ry Redd then took this information from Raman, went to the A.R.E. got access to all the 14,000 plus readings prior to computers, and started a data-base of the astrology. This progressed on until the so-called "Reincarnation Readings" one could purchase became popular on the internet, probably long after he and Raman died.

All it is (the Reincarnation Readings) is what I said. Use BOTH charts - see what your Sun-Moon-Asc are in both. and realize you are the composite of both.

https://karenchristino.com/tag/ry-redd/
Here is an example of what some people are selling - The Reincarnation Astro Report on Michael J. Fox:
(combining the two systems)
https://astrosoftware.com/cayce.htm
Good luck.
 
My advice would be to forget the one-prediction-fits-all type videos and writers and get more into actual forecasting techniques yourself, especially since you have your chart in front of you.
Why consume generalities when you can do the real thing?
 
I know Astrologers use Whole Signs to read charts but when I do the Placidus, it seems almost as if I am a Virgo Rising. I am curious to know, would I be better off listening to what a month has in store for Virgo Risings to get a better idea of my chart?

Although the Asc. does not act as a planet, its sign represents the window ... or lens ... through which you experience situations ....and people can experience you. In progresssed astrology the Ascendant moves in accordance with the progressed M.C. degree. You appear to have a chart without wide varying house cusps, according to birthplace, so its progression could follow the approx. 1 degree per year. This would mean that, as a Leo rising, early in life you began to experience life through the more direct and Earthy Virgo lens, yet without foregoing your natural Leo sight.

From natal planetary positions you could well have now reached an age when the Ascendant has progressed into Libra, through which the Airy temperament is added to the Fire and Earth already experienced. There is a thought that when the Ascendant (and M.C.) change signs, the ruler of that sign becomes dominant in how the individual further experiences situations that occur to him/her. Personally I have felt this to be true. Now in the early Scorpio Asc. period, one thing after another is 'dying a natural death' ....probably due to age as well. My natal Virgo-Libra Ascendants now experience situations more emotionally as the circle of loved ones lost becomes larger. Virgo says, 'that's life', .... but even so.... :cry:
 
I know Astrologers use Whole Signs to read charts but when I do the Placidus, it seems almost as if I am a Virgo Rising. I am curious to know, would I be better off listening to what a month has in store for Virgo Risings to get a better idea of my chart?
perhaps keep in mind
Generalisation using OneSizeFitsAllCookbook School Of Astrology is unreliable :)
and check out all the signs


 
My advice would be to forget the one-prediction-fits-all type videos and writers and get more into actual forecasting techniques yourself, especially since you have your chart in front of you.
Why consume generalities when you can do the real thing?
First you should have the correct information would be my thought. Only then can you get the corrected answers.
Ry Redd & B.V.Raman provided that, as I'm providing it here again. That is unless most people only want shallow answers that use one chart only and don't give mind to the fact you are more than that.

(personally speaking I don't use more than one chart, the default tropical, but NOW I understand I'm more than that and can see it astrologically where before I was not aware.

For example, My Sun in Capricorn tropical is Sagittarius Sidereal. I have a lot of the sign's traits too. My Asc. in Trop. is Cancer but in Sidereal it is
in Gemini. Gemini is known for authors and writing, ruled by Mercury. I now have that answer as to why I was so pushed to write over 10 books during a very difficult time in my life, one after the other.

The info is simply offered to help people understand themselves better. Not everyone is a taker however, even when I offer.
I offer pearls of wisdom, please do not trample them!! Just pass - if not for you....
The OP (19th Law) now understands, he/she is indeed a Virgo Rising, but WHY that is - and why not the prior sign of Leo. Also that he/she is a Moon in Leo and understands now, WHY that is, (in both systems) looking at the personality (tropical) and the soul (Sidereal)
I thought that was important. I also understand not everyone will. But they can just ignore the pearls.


https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Redd,_Ry
https://icasindia.org/ICAS/Founder.htmlTestimonials

"In India Raman was a byword for accurate predictions. He foretold major events like India's disastrous war with China over disputed territory in 1962, its prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru's death two years later..."


https://astrolinked.com/native/167/b-v-raman/charts/bhava/
 
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