Astrology of the Moscow Murders

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Mundane Vedic Astrology is the branch of Vedic Astrology that deals with the planetary influences through signs and planetary periods in the charts of nations, cities, organizations, corporations, business organizations, etc. It covers objectives and goals of nations, their wealth, political stability, financial position, development, relationship with other countries/nations, natural calamities, public health, infrastructure development, national income, spiritual pursuits followed by its people, etc.
Mundane, vedic doesn’t have the outers, but I believe that the houses and the planets they use are similar of meaning.

If you know of a better western example, I would welcome it.

I use my horary definition books for definitions too, what house for bears, murders, domestic animals, etc.

I have looked in the Nag Hamadi for body parts.

Descriptions of Rahu and Ketu are pretty interesting in my link.

I doubt my thoughts are written in stone though😊
 
I am saying that I would like to explore the possibilities astrologically.

Not going to happen.

You believe what you want to.

Can I explore the astrology of it and other possibilities?

No, right?
Of course you can. I'm just saying what some of the known facts are according to authorities. Some of them are indisputable and need to be taken into account, even when looking at the charts.

For example, there are videos showing what time two of the victims returned home. @ 2 am.

Certain things have to be known, even when looking at the astrology of it. IMO

I am very interested in forensic astrology so I follow a True Crime forum and follow the known facts of these cases very closely. I think it's important.
 
From Law & Crime, Jan 6, 2023

"The affidavit also stated a DoorDash driver had delivered food to Kernodle at 4:00 a.m. and that she was active on TikTok at 4:12 a.m. — during the time the murders are believed to have occurred."

The DoorDash driver might've been off 5 minutes more or less in his estimate of time of delivery, but I doubt 17 minutes. Note the times quoted are from the affidavit, the legal document. If the food was delivered about 0400 instead of 0417 the whole time argument falls apart.
Then we're left with the interval the white car was parked across the street. Which also correlates to Pluto on the IC anti-culminating.

White may be the most popular car color in the US, but a 25% share doesn't justify saying most cars are white. It justifies saying most cars (3 out of 4) are NOT white (some color other than white).
 
From the Daily Mail site, Jan. 5, 2023

"The affidavit — recounting the moments Moscow Police Officer Brett Payne entered the home on Kings Street and found the four college students brutally stabbed to death — says Kernodle received the food order at around 4am on the night of November 13.
About 12 minutes later, Dylan Mortensen, who survived the attack, said she thought she heard Kaylee Goncalves, 21, say 'Someone's here,' but a forensic review suggests it may have just been Kernodle watching videos on TikTok at the time."

So D. said she thought she heard Kaylee (possibly the first victim, since she fought the perpetrator, based on defensive wounds on her body) say, "Someone's here," at 0412 -- just when Pluto was anti-culminating.
 
Both girls were asleep in the same bed. He apparently jumped on one and began stabbing. I don't think he was holding the sheath. I think it may have been in a pocket or in his waistband and fell out during the struggle.
I think the perpetrator drew the knife from its sheath upon entering the room, therefore had it in his non-dominant hand. In the struggle he dropped it or it was knocked out of his hand.
Obviously the sheath was not on his belt, probably because he was wearing coveralls (receipts for coveralls were found in the accused's effects, but not the garment if I remember correctly), and possibly so that it would be easier to conceal the weapon if observed. He wouldn't want to be seen carrying an unsheathed knife around or with it sheathed on his hip; better to stash it sheathed in his pocket and pull and unsheath it at the scene.
When victim V fell on the sheath (it was found under her body) it was out of plain view and the perpetrator decided against hanging around trying to find it, IMO.
 
Regarding the involvement of the accused's attorney with family members of the victims:
Anne Taylor was the chief of the Kootenai County Public Defender’s Office when she was assigned to defend the accused. As a Public defender in a small semi-rural municipality, it's likely she had contact with a lot of individuals needing a defense. Many more than an attorney in private practice. No doubt her office was the only game in town for many local defendants.
So I don't read anything nefarious into that connection.
 
I did not write that 6 people were killed.
If someone is not confronting, they are either overpowered or complacent to the crime.
Probably complacent, or they would have called 911.
Good point :)
They phoned sorority fraternity friends instead of calling 911

Yes, so I read. And they were somehow too traumatized to call 911 too, right? Good astrological answer. Again.
The chart is for 4:15am.
Moon is in a communication house.
My garbage is gone through daily. Looking for cans and bottles, and people going through, thrifting. People sell stuff out of the garbage to pawnshops, and each other.
Garbage is dropped off by my neighbours in my bins semi regularly. Last garbage pickup day my neighbours filled my bin leaving me no room, I don’t know if they wore gloves. I removed some of it to put my garbage in. I wish I had gloves when I took it back there.
People use their neighbours bins regularly, if you complain, you are told that the bins belong to the city, not you. Then they say if things aren’t sorted right you will be fined. I don’t know why he wore gloves, maybe he’s a germaphobe.
His car was said to have been cleaned out when he was getting ready to drive his car out with his Dad. Why would he transfer garbage from an already observed to be cleaned out car to Philidelphia? They said he cleaned it out well. I don’t know why people do things.
Nor do I believe that Xana made the call for food at 4:00am then was active on the phone till 4:12am then that she ate part of it after it arrived at 4:17am. After she was dead.
Another good point
Five minutes for one person to kill and escape the residence after overpowering 6 people. Scaring 2 of them into their rooms so badly that they couldn’t call 911.
Five minutes to kill on two separate floors of the home
- therefore necessary to use stairs - running requires energy

The four victims: all young, strong, late teens/early twenties, fit, healthy - fought back - requires energy & Time

&
Clearly then even more Time required to go to the next floor via stairs after killing two.
4:15am
The murders supposed timeframe. :)

I am saying that I would like to explore the possibilities astrologically. Not going to happen. You believe what you want to. Can I explore the astrology of it and other possibilities? No, right?

The car had different side mirrors. Most vehicles are white. I don’t think the astrology is strong enough for this time.
But, I guess this has become a bickering thread again. That’s why I laid it down for a while, unable, to do the astrology in depth by the half hour from the link I have repeatedly posted.
How about 4:15am? Shall we discuss it?
Xana was on the phone apparently till 4:12am. So it must not have happened till after that,
or surely she would have alerted someone to the danger within. So we have 4:12am then food delivery at 4:17am. Everyone was quiet so as not to alert the delivery person.
The food was brought in by Xana? Some was eaten by her? And then it’s I guess 4:18? Are they all dead? Is anybody dead? 4:18am 2 minutes to the white car driving away.
Then they were driving away from an extremely bloody scene, leaving no blood trail to their vehicle.
That’s a lot to happen and control from Xana presumably using her phone at 4:12am.
Good highlight
Has sufficient Time to somehow overpower two surviving room mates to such an extent that they are "..too traumatized.." to call 911
UNLESS THE 2 SURVIVERS ARE COMPLICIT :)

THEN knives four healthy fit, active sporty late teen/early twenties victims on two separate floors separated by stairs which presumably are negotiated at speed - requiring EFFORT

- THEN somehow disappears from the property
leaving NO BLOOD TRAIL
Interesting

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Of course you can. I'm just saying what some of the known facts are according to authorities. Some of them are indisputable and need to be taken into account, even when looking at the charts.

For example, there are videos showing what time two of the victims returned home. @ 2 am.

Certain things have to be known, even when looking at the astrology of it. IMO

I am very interested in forensic astrology so I follow a True Crime forum and follow the known facts of these cases very closely. I think it's important.
I’m actually not.

White cars are known to be the most common colour of car worldwide. The United States of America too.

Let’s stick to that subject.

Do we have some whiteout? It must be the bloody snow.

I guess I will post the 4:15am chart again so we can discuss white cars being, or not being the most common colour.

This is the same as last year, people chatting in the astrology thread about their personal beliefs with no astrology again.

People are presumed guilty until after the trial, correct?
 
Regarding the involvement of the accused's attorney with family members of the victims:
Anne Taylor was the chief of the Kootenai County Public Defender’s Office when she was assigned to defend the accused. As a Public defender in a small semi-rural municipality, it's likely she had contact with a lot of individuals needing a defense. Many more than an attorney in private practice. No doubt her office was the only game in town for many local defendants.
So I don't read anything nefarious into that connection.
I’m aware of that, the obvious point you missed was that two of the parents were up on drug charges.

Purple is the most common colour for irises.
 
Opal said: I have looked in the Nag Hamadi for body parts.

The isle of Nag Hammadi near Luxor off the Nile River? What do you mean? All I know about Nag Hammadi, is in 1940s some shepherds found a cave with various ancient Gospels that had not been seen in 2,000 years. One being the Gospel of Thomas. You must be referring to something else?

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html
 
I am very interested in forensic astrology so I follow a True Crime forum and follow the known facts of these cases very closely. I think it's important.

Its been many years since the Forensic Astrology site closed down on the forum, but from my recall, we used the 7th house cusp for the description of the murderer and in this case it would be Mars (using Opal's chart) and the Sun which is in Scorpio (also Mars)

Was it ever determined that he was at the Food Cart with all the students ordering food that A.M.?
 
The isle of Nag Hammadi near Luxor off the Nile River? What do you mean? All I know about Nag Hammadi, is in 1940s some shepherds found a cave with various ancient Gospels that had not been seen in 2,000 years. One being the Gospel of Thomas. You must be referring to something else?

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html
Hi Leomoon, I think the link goes to what you asked of.

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn-meyer.html

The Secret Book of John

The Creation of Adam

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I of course recommend that you read the entire book.

But, that said, you can scroll down to The Creation of Adam and you will see why I am stating this. The body parts technically 365 of them, and the entities that gifted them each to Adam.

The whole book is very astrological.

Some of the names, I do not know, and cannot find in my books, or in web searches.

Some I know, and are in some, or many of my books and in web searches.
 
Its been many years since the Forensic Astrology site closed down on the forum, but from my recall, we used the 7th house cusp for the description of the murderer and in this case it would be Mars (using Opal's chart) and the Sun which is in Scorpio (also Mars)

Was it ever determined that he was at the Food Cart with all the students ordering food that A.M.?
I don’t think that he was at the Food kiosk? That Kaylee and Maddie were at, but JA probably knows for sure.

Which chart time were you observing, I have posted a few times recently, most recently probably the 4:15am chart.
 
Wondering how does that happen? And it was under one of the victim's bodies.
Was he holding the knife in one hand and the sheath in another?
Or did the sheath fit in a pocket, and it slipped out in a struggle ?
How is it known?

That he knew he had lost the sheath.

I have not seen any corroborating confession of this.😊

But, I can only surmise that in the very little time one person, if it was one person, that it would not be surprising for lots of things to go missing.

But we also can’t disregard that the “friends” that were called to the scene long before the authorities, could have contaminated the crime scene.

There was, no matter to what “time” the murders occured, a significant amount of time to alter the crime scene, and remove or add things to or from the crime scene.

The authorities that were notified at 11:58am were not there till after noon.
 
And you disregarded it. Twice.
No, the data that was cited proved that most cars are definitely NOT white. 3 out of 4 cars in the US are some color other than white, from the data that was provided.
It was stated, "most cars are white." 25% is NOT most. The overwhelming majority, 75%, are NOT white. That statement was not correct.
Now can we let go of this?
 
1:45am
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Well, I am going to start at 1:45am.

https://12andus.com/blog/view/689109/mars-in-gemini-conjunct-midheaven-in-gemini-in-the-birth-chart

Mars is just about on the MC.

Quick thinking. Aggressive thinking. Communication is easy, but forceful.
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Rahu in Taurus in the 8th can go well or not. One thing for sure, is that it is about money.
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Uranus in Taurus. Unpredictable, stability. And the want of financial independence.
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Rahu conjunct Uranus in Taurus:
adjusting your life’s path due to the new insights you gain through overcoming some problem. 8th house financial.
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Jupiter in the 7th, the belief that 2 heads are better than one. In Pisces, possibly rose coloured glasses.

Conjunct DC
Expectation of fair or ethical standards in business or marital affairs.
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Neptune in the 6th Pisces
Sixth sense about what is going on around you.
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Saturn Aquarius 5th
Assessing before reacting, no irrational thoughts or reactions. Originality.
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Saturn Capricorn 4th
Strategic transformation.
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Pluto Capricorn 4th
Power within the house. Not a place to kick back and relax. A place to rule over.




Be back tomorrow. To look at the rest of 1:45am.
 
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