Could this turn into a relationship?

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Hi all. Sooo I went on a first date today. I always go in with 0 expectations on the table, especially for someone I’ve never met before. This Sag man blew me away. We had so much to talk about and talked for almost 4 hours straight. He’s cute, funny, and kind. He said he wanted to see me again, maybe tomorrow night, and texted me after that it was great to see me. He didn’t respond to my last text back which is making me nervous (typical 21 year old girl behavior lol) but I’m sure it’s fine. I know it all went really well and we’re both into each other, but I went through a complicated relationship last year / early this year that has made me a bit of a cynic, I guess you could say. I am still letting myself be excited to like him, but I worry that there’s something I’m missing. So, will this turn into anything good?
 

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Hi all. Sooo I went on a first date today. I always go in with 0 expectations on the table, especially for someone I’ve never met before. This Sag man blew me away. We had so much to talk about and talked for almost 4 hours straight. He’s cute, funny, and kind. He said he wanted to see me again, maybe tomorrow night, and texted me after that it was great to see me. He didn’t respond to my last text back which is making me nervous (typical 21 year old girl behavior lol) but I’m sure it’s fine. I know it all went really well and we’re both into each other, but I went through a complicated relationship last year / early this year that has made me a bit of a cynic, I guess you could say. I am still letting myself be excited to like him, but I worry that there’s something I’m missing. So, will this turn into anything good?
I'm not sure about this becoming a serious relationship. You are Mercury, exalted in your 4th of emotional security.

If we are speaking of relationship, then he is Jupiter, in detriment in Gemini, in your 12th, in his turned 6th, of weakness, or concerns? You, Mercury, are exactly conjunct the Moon in Virgo, and are in an applying square to Mars in your 12th of secrets, dreams.

I am not an expert in horary, just trying to learn. So take this with grain of salt. But I just get feeling that he is not really who he tries to present himself to be. And you as Mercury, were enveloped by the Moon, so you were charmed by emotion and dreamy hopes maybe?

The upcoming square to Mars might be a sudden realisation of some kind?
 
I'm not sure about this becoming a serious relationship. You are Mercury, exalted in your 4th of emotional security.

If we are speaking of relationship, then he is Jupiter, in detriment in Gemini, in your 12th, in his turned 6th, of weakness, or concerns? You, Mercury, are exactly conjunct the Moon in Virgo, and are in an applying square to Mars in your 12th of secrets, dreams.

I am not an expert in horary, just trying to learn. So take this with grain of salt. But I just get feeling that he is not really who he tries to present himself to be. And you as Mercury, were enveloped by the Moon, so you were charmed by emotion and dreamy hopes maybe?

The upcoming square to Mars might be a sudden realisation of some kind?
I can see this, I'd like to say I'm usually charmed by emotion and hopes. I feel like we've become fast friends, we clearly click in some way and I'm just kind of letting things take shape, that's all I can do. when is the upcoming square to mars?
 
I can see this, I'd like to say I'm usually charmed by emotion and hopes. I feel like we've become fast friends, we clearly click in some way and I'm just kind of letting things take shape, that's all I can do. when is the upcoming square to mars?
Actually, by the stroke of luck, Mercury has just gone retro, so the next aspect to Mars will actually be a sextile, not a square. So you might find out new info but it should be more positive than I initially thought.
 
The Mercury/Venus/Moon conjunction explains why you got along so well. But the Asc is applying to square Neptune in approx 6 time units, which could be days/weeks. Which will leave you feeling confused, especially if you have lost yourself in your own illusions. And also feelings of self-doubt. So, based on this, I don't think this will turn into something serious.

Btw do a chart for the last text you sent him, the one he didn't respond to. It would be interesting to see the synastry with this horary.
 
The Mercury/Venus/Moon conjunction explains why you got along so well. But the Asc is applying to square Neptune in approx 6 time units, which could be days/weeks. Which will leave you feeling confused, especially if you have lost yourself in your own illusions. And also feelings of self-doubt. So, based on this, I don't think this will turn into something serious.

Btw do a chart for the last text you sent him, the one he didn't respond to. It would be interesting to see the synastry with this horary.
oh, i don’t like the sound of that :O not that I’m hoping for it to turn into anything. if anything i’m worried i’ll get bored because he’s sooo nice and seems very into me haha. so after I made this post he did respond and actually came over last night and watched a movie :) it was sweet and he texted me being really sweet after he left, and texted me throughout today asking what I was up to.
 
The Mercury/Venus/Moon conjunction explains why you got along so well. But the Asc is applying to square Neptune in approx 6 time units, which could be days/weeks. Which will leave you feeling confused, especially if you have lost yourself in your own illusions. And also feelings of self-doubt. So, based on this, I don't think this will turn into something serious.

Btw do a chart for the last text you sent him, the one he didn't respond to. It would be interesting to see the synastry with this horary.
here is a chart I just cast now with a slightly different shift of ‘will we hook up?’ rather than will this turn into a relationship. I think it’s very likely- like I know if i texted him now asking him to come over tonight he would and it’s almost little too powerful
 

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here is a chart I just cast now with a slightly different shift of ‘will we hook up?’ rather than will this turn into a relationship. I think it’s very likely- like I know if i texted him now asking him to come over tonight he would and it’s almost little too powerful
Horary questions are casted because the querent is often looking for information that would be hard to find with other means - if you know the man would come over then there’s no point for the horary question other then - to be frank - an ego boost. This seems supplied by the chart at hand
 
Horary questions are casted because the querent is often looking for information that would be hard to find with other means - if you know the man would come over then there’s no point for the horary question other then - to be frank - an ego boost. This seems supplied by the chart at hand
yes, very true, I hooked up with him the day after this chart was cast. more has occurred, i’ve really been thinking about this in the past few days as we’ve continued talking, reminding myself i can accept and receive love, that i should believe he’s genuine in his words. i’m going to post a recast of it tonight with the exact same first question of will this turn into an actual relationship? I still don’t know. of course it’s too early to tell but there is something different about him and all of it, my friends also love him and love us together. we will also be apart for at least over a week end of the month as he’s going on tour.
 

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yes, very true, I hooked up with him the day after this chart was cast. more has occurred, i’ve really been thinking about this in the past few days as we’ve continued talking, reminding myself i can accept and receive love, that i should believe he’s genuine in his words. i’m going to post a recast of it tonight with the exact same first question of will this turn into an actual relationship? I still don’t know. of course it’s too early to tell but there is something different about him and all of it, my friends also love him and love us together. we will also be apart for at least over a week end of the month as he’s going on tour.
You can't post a recast of the same question tonight that you already formulated and addressed days ago and nothing materially has changed.
The original chart in this thread is the chart for this question.
So reread what was written in response to it for the answer to your question and perhaps others will continue to reply here.
 
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I am still letting myself be excited to like him, but I worry that there’s something I’m missing. So, will this turn into anything good?
Referencing the very first chart, because as IleneK wrote you can't keep writing and re-writing the chart hoping for a different answer.
If something basic does change in the situation, you might think of another question and do a chart for it.
In the meantime, this one clearly shows the state of mind you are living right now, with neptune having touched the cusp of the 11th of hopes and wishes.
However, it is square to both ascendent and descendent, so there is a very romantic, dreamy quality to what is happening, but as so often happens with neptune, once the veil lifts and the fog clears and we see more clearly, we almost always remain with a disillusion.
He as jupiter in your 12th has entered your subconscious, but it will square saturn putting the brakes on.
You on the other hand are mercury, retrograde with moon just leaving a conjunction with you, which is what brought this emotional rapport to you.
As moon moves forward, and neptune tightens its square to asc/des you will see things more clearly and probably back away.
You are in the 4th house of endings.
Mars rules the 11th of friends, together with him jupiter gave this lovely interval of friendship. Saturn is waiting to cool things off.
The chart has Chiron in the 11th of friendships.
Considering your comments about your previous relationship, this one may have served the specific purpose of restoring your confidence in this area, making you less cynical, reassuring you that friendship is at the base of all good relationships and can still be had by you.
Remember, not every relationship is meant to be long term, some can last just the flicker of a candle flame but leave a lasting note for us spiritually.
 
Referencing the very first chart, because as IleneK wrote you can't keep writing and re-writing the chart hoping for a different answer.
If something basic does change in the situation, you might think of another question and do a chart for it.
In the meantime, this one clearly shows the state of mind you are living right now, with neptune having touched the cusp of the 11th of hopes and wishes.
However, it is square to both ascendent and descendent, so there is a very romantic, dreamy quality to what is happening, but as so often happens with neptune, once the veil lifts and the fog clears and we see more clearly, we almost always remain with a disillusion.
He as jupiter in your 12th has entered your subconscious, but it will square saturn putting the brakes on.
You on the other hand are mercury, retrograde with moon just leaving a conjunction with you, which is what brought this emotional rapport to you.
As moon moves forward, and neptune tightens its square to asc/des you will see things more clearly and probably back away.
You are in the 4th house of endings.
Mars rules the 11th of friends, together with him jupiter gave this lovely interval of friendship. Saturn is waiting to cool things off.
The chart has Chiron in the 11th of friendships.
Considering your comments about your previous relationship, this one may have served the specific purpose of restoring your confidence in this area, making you less cynical, reassuring you that friendship is at the base of all good relationships and can still be had by you.
Remember, not every relationship is meant to be long term, some can last just the flicker of a candle flame but leave a lasting note for us spiritually.
this was very well put. i appreciate your interpretations, elena! i wanted to wait a week to update, so here it goes. not much has happened, it definitely feels like a friendship before anything else and he is about to leave the state for two weeks. i’ve already got a few other dates lined up with other people and i’m keeping my options very open. i think i was so curious about this question because he did come on strong, but as we’ve both been busy the energy between us is not as fierce anymore. maybe it could be in the future, when he gets back and we both figure out our lives a little more. but for now, it’s just really chill.
 
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