Doom & Gloom

[conspiracy theorist]

Stay safe out there Opal

 

[Ukpoohbear]

All of Musk’s baby moms are Canadian.

Not a fan of Musk?

 

[uranianplutonian]

Not a fan of Musk?

You may have just opened Pandora’s box with this question.
Mentioning Musk these days seems more provocative than mentioning abortion.

 

[david starling]

You may have just opened Pandora’s box with this question.
Mentioning Musk these days seems more provocative than mentioning abortion.

Well, at least Musk isn't a religious zealot.

 

[uranianplutonian]

Well, at least Musk isn't a religious zealot.

I stay away from both topics now.

 

[Ukpoohbear]

You may have just opened Pandora’s box with this question.
Mentioning Musk these days seems more provocative than mentioning abortion.

Ahh, I didn’t know he was such a controversial subject.

 

[Ukpoohbear]

 

[Opal]

Not a fan of Musk?

Not particularly. Like politicians, he is a face man, when he is no longer useful, he will dissipate into the, sky?

 

[Ukpoohbear]

Some Bukowski poems. He’s surprisingly romantic in the first poem, beneath the hairy, drunk exterior. He reminds me of someone I used to know who was/is a love/sex addict, and who doesn’t hide behind romantic fantasies but who has plenty of experience with love and so sees it with all its rawness. ‘

She’s mad but she’s magic. There’s no lie in her fire,’ is my fav line from 1st poem. The most romantic part is the last line, ‘it was best like this,’ meaning, it was best to skip the actual experience of the relationship so that it didn’t end in disappointment or failure and he could keep her on a pedestal. That’s quite tender for a brutish character like Bukowski. The rest of the love he speaks of, that they missed out on experiencing together, is quite raw, but I like it too for its realism. It’s just interesting that he chooses to end the poem romantically.


An Almost Made Up Poem

I see you drinking at a fountain with tiny
blue hands, no, your hands are not tiny
they are small, and the fountain is in France
where you wrote me that last letter and
I answered and never heard from you again.
you used to write insane poems about
ANGELS AND GOD, all in upper case, and you
knew famous artists and most of them
were your lovers, and I wrote back, it’ all right,
go ahead, enter their lives, I’ not jealous
because we’ never met. we got close once in
New Orleans, one half block, but never met, never
touched. so you went with the famous and wrote
about the famous, and, of course, what you found out
is that the famous are worried about
their fame –– not the beautiful young girl in bed
with them, who gives them that, and then awakens
in the morning to write upper case poems about
ANGELS AND GOD. we know God is dead, they’ told
us, but listening to you I wasn’ sure. maybe
it was the upper case. you were one of the
best female poets and I told the publishers,
editors, “ her, print her, she’ mad but she’
magic. there’ no lie in her fire.” I loved you
like a man loves a woman he never touches, only
writes to, keeps little photographs of. I would have
loved you more if I had sat in a small room rolling a
cigarette and listened to you p*** in the bathroom,
but that didn’ happen. your letters got sadder.
your lovers betrayed you. kid, I wrote back, all
lovers betray. it didn’ help. you said
you had a crying bench and it was by a bridge and
the bridge was over a river and you sat on the crying
bench every night and wept for the lovers who had
hurt and forgotten you. I wrote back but never
heard again. a friend wrote me of your suicide
3 or 4 months after it happened. if I had met you
I would probably have been unfair to you or you
to me. it was best like this.


Love Is A Dog From Hell

there is a loneliness in this world so great
that you can see it in the slow movement of
the hands of a clock.

people so tired
mutilated
either by love or no love.

people just are not good to each other
one on one.

the rich are not good to the rich
the poor are not good to the poor.

we are afraid.

our educational system tells us
that we can all be
big-ass winners.

it hasn't told us
about the gutters
or the suicides.

or the terror of one person
aching in one place
alone

untouched
unspoken to
watering a plant.

— Charles Bukowski

 

[Ukpoohbear]

‘The whole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being.’
— Jung

 

[uranianplutonian]

Ahh, I didn’t know he was such a controversial subject.

I think he mostly became controversial after he bought Twitter.

 

[conspiracy theorist]

He was controversial before, mostly because folks cottoned on to the fact that he overpromises and rarely delivers on his claims, and vastly misrepresents his role in the companies he has been affiliated with.

Just that now with twitter, his boilerplate about "global town square" and "free speech" has made the whole fiasco into a partisan brawl in American politics.

I have no love for twitter, but I hope they win and get the remedy of specific performance because it would be a hilarious and ironic conclusion to his initial "elaborate troll".

 

[david starling]

He was controversial before, mostly because folks cottoned on to the fact that he overpromises and rarely delivers on his claims, and vastly misrepresents his role in the companies he has been affiliated with.

Just that now with twitter, his boilerplate about "global town square" and "free speech" has made the whole fiasco into a partisan brawl in American politics.

I have no love for twitter, but I hope they win and get the remedy of specific performance because it would be a hilarious and ironic conclusion to his initial "elaborate troll".

How did he get so rich?

 

[conspiracy theorist]

In no particular order, a combination of family wealth (which I don't look down upon like so many others do), venture capitalism, luck, a great PR team/optics, mythologising his image and capturing the public imagination with his business ideas (even if impractical), corporate skullduggery, government subsidies, and the kind of macro-environment that has seen the valuation of Tesla and SpaceX shot way up (where most of his wealth is from)

 

[david starling]

In no particular order, a combination of family wealth (which I don't look down upon like so many others do), venture capitalism, luck, a great PR team/optics, mythologising his image and capturing the public imagination with his business ideas (even if impractical), corporate skullduggery, government subsidies, and the kind of macro-environment that has seen the valuation of Tesla and SpaceX shot way up (where most of his wealth is from)

Thanks! I thought of another thing: He's a MAJOR supporter of 5G radiation technology. He's launching 5G radiation satellites that circle the planet and connect with the millions of 5G base stations around the world. Bill Gates is also spearheading 5G.

5G radiation is necessary for his pet project to make driverless vehicles feasible. It also puts him on the cutting edge of modern technology. That's gotta be bringing in some BIG bucks!

 

[conspiracy theorist]

I haven't been following the 5G developments that closely.... what's up with that?

 

[david starling]

I haven't been following the 5G developments that closely.... what's up with that?

From what I can tell, after following it closely, it weakens the human immune system and causes problems with the nervous system and cardiovascular system. It's a general, overall weakening, not specific to any particular illness--it just makes it more difficult to fight them off.

It's been labeled a "conspiracy theory" to claim it's true, but seeing the results, especially regarding this Pandemic, I'm convinced it's really the case. All sorts of illnesses can now be fatal that wouldn't be otherwise, not just Covid.

Interesting coincidence that 5G was "launched" first in Wuhan, China right at the time the Covid virus infections started. But the infections were worst wherever 5G has been deployed the most everywhere else.

I think we'll eventually get adjusted to being constantly bombarded with 5G radiation, as a just another hostile environmental factor, but we're a less resilient species because of it.

Many scientists around the world have sounded the warning about the harmful effects of 5 G, but ridiculed and labeled "quacks" by the Powers-that-be, and are being falsely accused of claiming that it "causes" Covid, rather than what they're REALLY saying--It's extremely harmful to our health in GENERAL, both mental and physical, due to its interference with our central nervous system. That's currently HERESY in the religion-substitute known as modern-scientific-technology.

 

[conspiracy theorist]

Yknow, it's funny you should mention that in light of this discussion I heard on the following video entitled "non covid excess deaths"



He doesn't mention 5G, but he does pinpoint the trend of more people dying than expected. I wouldn't know where to find those experts that link 5G with weakened immune systems, but here is another healthcare professional with "eyes to see".

 

[david starling]

Meanwhile, our food supply is being downgraded by GMO ("genetically modified organisms") crops. The health problems associated with GMOs aren't being nearly as downplayed as the dangers of 5G--in fact most of Western Europe has actually banned them. They allow for heavier spraying with poisonous herbicides and pesticides to yield larger volume, and are killing our bees and butterflies. That's in addition to GMO crops having much less nutritional value than non-GMOs.

Here's a more recent problem that's been discovered about GMO crops--they don't work for biomass, sustainable fuels to substitute for petroleum. That's thrown a monkey wrench into the ambitious plan in the U.S. to build fuel refineries to process agricultural crops to lessen our dependence on gasoline.

 

[uranianplutonian]

I think he mostly became controversial after he bought Twitter.

It was me who opened Pandora’s box…