Eris VS Pluto -- Who wins the power war?

[Mad Madam Mimm]

Even so, it does appear that Eris is in the thick of things in the charts above, don't you think? In appropriate ways?

I’m gonna channel my inner Eros here, jump in a convo where I’m not invited and drop a clear cut simple statement , in front of the specialists that have much more knowledge than I.

In short, smarty britches , ERIS is the one that got poor Pluto Demoted.
Yep, it was all her fault.

Pluto is still a planet to me, though

As above , so below

All women do is mess stuff up in the most wonderful way lol

You welcome. Psychologically on a collective level, we need her . Makes perfect sense she would hop over. Nobody speaks up, most smile, or just don’t deal with their feelings.
It creates to much toxic. Not good for peoples souls. And she goes to work and will trigger , bring the anger out in others tney don’t even know tney carry, or, just pull it out by antagonizing. If anything, she won’t play by Cappy rules . At the very least , she will trigger by rubbing her authenticity in peoples face.

She’s good and has a lot of work to do. We are lucky I think

Just my 2 cents

 

[Mad Madam Mimm]

I can’t believe my comment was deleted.
That was tacky and uncalled called for . I was speaking in third person about the previous post , ya know the dangerous mob of angry people with misguided anger ?
There was nothing attacking about it.
I will save my satire lol

I don’t repress my anger.
That was annoying as heck, made me upset .
Now, I’m over it .


Good day

 

[leomoon]

I can’t believe my comment was deleted.
That was tacky and uncalled called for . I was speaking in third person about the previous post , ya know the dangerous mob of angry people with misguided anger ?
There was nothing attacking about it.
I will save my satire lol

I don’t repress my anger.
That was annoying as heck, made me upset .
Now, I’m over it .


Good day

I know exactly how you feel about your deleted post, because mine too get deleted sometimes, and I have no idea why that is even though when I see the above (bell) on the right hand next to my name (leomoon) above on the far right tell me, "it had no astrology in the post) I know darned well it did, because I made SURE it did by editing my post to insert it! So nothing is perfect, even deletions, imo.
Its not just you..... and it can be upsetting because some of us do put time and even a lot of effort into our posts and then we cannot even see what we did to cause the deletion.

As for Pluto & Eris - I always thought Pluto as a planet and the way I saw it go over my 6th house for about a decade (so I'm speaking from personal experience) and the aspects made especially to my MC at that time, we quite indicative of karmic payback. In otherwords, I even had dreams at that time showing me it was karma I was experiencing because it was such a terrible and sad time in many respects. Of course not all the events were sad, some were just terrible, lol.

Eris, I have not studied in the same way as the planets, but I don't think the way Eris is described is about karma as Saturn and Pluto might be seen or even the Nodes by some. That's my 2 cents in the matter.

 

[leomoon]

I found this on the internet which is a fair writeup of what the mystic and prophet Edgar Cayce had to say about Pluto: (I've studied Cayce's readings for about 55 years now, if not longer!

Pluto is a representation of the afterlife realm of the soul. He suggested it had to do with the expansion of consciousness.


"According to Cayce, Pluto is associated with the afterlife realm referred to as the realm of subconsciousness. This afterlife realm is the realm for the final development of full consciousness. The planet Pluto was discussed by Cayce years before it was actually discovered! He referred to it as Vulcan and also as Septimus. When Pluto was discovered, Cayce affirmed that Vulcan or Septimus was the same planet as Pluto. The Pluto realm of the afterlife brings regeneration and a growth in consciousness, but also can bring self-centeredness. Pluto represents spiritual growth and development of the soul and its influence is just now developing in the destiny of humanity.

https://near-death.com/edgar-cayce-on-astrology/

 

[waybread]

I can’t believe my comment was deleted.
That was tacky and uncalled called for . I was speaking in third person about the previous post , ya know the dangerous mob of angry people with misguided anger ?
There was nothing attacking about it.
I will save my satire lol

I don’t repress my anger.
That was annoying as heck, made me upset .
Now, I’m over it .


Good day

Mimm, you might PM the moderators and request an explanation.

 

[Mad Madam Mimm]

Mimm, you might PM the moderators and request an explanation.

It’s a merc sextile mars along with moon conjunct mars…. It just bubbles up in the moment and seems to surpass my ID…my sincere apologies for not catching the missing firing synapse. Sometimes I can’t help it.
Just the way God made me I guess
Or, a chart I need to balance lol
Who knows

I’m over that mood now. No anger residue .

 

[Mad Madam Mimm]

I know exactly how you feel about your deleted post, because mine too get deleted sometimes, and I have no idea why that is even though when I see the above (bell) on the right hand next to my name (leomoon) above on the far right tell me, "it had no astrology in the post) I know darned well it did, because I made SURE it did by editing my post to insert it! So nothing is perfect, even deletions, imo.
Its not just you..... and it can be upsetting because some of us do put time and even a lot of effort into our posts and then we cannot even see what we did to cause the deletion.

As for Pluto & Eris - I always thought Pluto as a planet and the way I saw it go over my 6th house for about a decade (so I'm speaking from personal experience) and the aspects made especially to my MC at that time, we quite indicative of karmic payback. In otherwords, I even had dreams at that time showing me it was karma I was experiencing because it was such a terrible and sad time in many respects. Of course not all the events were sad, some were just terrible, lol.

Eris, I have not studied in the same way as the planets, but I don't think the way Eris is described is about karma as Saturn and Pluto might be seen or even the Nodes by some. That's my 2 cents in the matter.

 

[Mad Madam Mimm]

Haha oh Leo Moon….I can imagine the solid self respect.
Also, the haters that haven’t arrived ….
Anyway, as a Leo, know your inner child is intact.
It’s a constant battle between how you “ feel” amd what you are told is correct to feel .
If you look for validation for your feelings , you won’t be heard , on purpose .
It’s mostly unconscious on peoples part , so don’t be mad, just guard .
Someday, you will find people like me that are still raw and honest lol
Thanks for yoir research. Vulcan has been on my mind for awhile …. A planet that was blown to pieces , and now, the pieces reconnect .
Just my theory

 

[Mad Madam Mimm]

I found this on the internet which is a fair writeup of what the mystic and prophet Edgar Cayce had to say about Pluto: (I've studied Cayce's readings for about 55 years now, if not longer!

Pluto is a representation of the afterlife realm of the soul. He suggested it had to do with the expansion of consciousness.


"According to Cayce, Pluto is associated with the afterlife realm referred to as the realm of subconsciousness. This afterlife realm is the realm for the final development of full consciousness. The planet Pluto was discussed by Cayce years before it was actually discovered! He referred to it as Vulcan and also as Septimus. When Pluto was discovered, Cayce affirmed that Vulcan or Septimus was the same planet as Pluto. The Pluto realm of the afterlife brings regeneration and a growth in consciousness, but also can bring self-centeredness. Pluto represents spiritual growth and development of the soul and its influence is just now developing in the destiny of humanity.

https://near-death.com/edgar-cayce-on-astrology/

I’ve heard of serpentine , never septimus.
Should I google this ?
Off the top of my head , I think sepsis lol
That’s a snake bite, son

Jk. It’s not funny
But, it is
The poison the cure

 

[Mad Madam Mimm]

I’ve heard of serpentine , never septimus.
Should I google this ?
Off the top of my head , I think sepsis lol
That’s a snake bite, son

Jk. It’s not funny
But, it is
The poison the cure

I can’t tell the difference between the unconscious , and realm of the soul .
Ether way, I get t what you’re saying. Even though I learned it the hard way, amd can only put the pieces together in retro spect lol
At the end of the day, I don’t care about deeper knowledge . I just want good connections , transparency, and living in the moment with love . As a Leo, I’m sure that makes sense .Of course , my Scorpio sun knows we need the bitter w the sweet lol… amd now Vulcan .
It’s all good .

 

[leomoon]

I can’t tell the difference between the unconscious , and realm of the soul .
Ether way, I get t what you’re saying. Even though I learned it the hard way, amd can only put the pieces together in retro spect lol
At the end of the day, I don’t care about deeper knowledge . I just want good connections , transparency, and living in the moment with love . As a Leo, I’m sure that makes sense .Of course , my Scorpio sun knows we need the bitter w the sweet lol… amd now Vulcan .
It’s all good .

Apparently, no one has heard of Septimus, because it hasn't been discovered as of yet. Oh well, maybe someday we'll hear

https://www.edgarcaycenyc.org/edgar...a,the Zodiac such as Polaris and Canus Major.

 

[Humanitarian]

I can’t tell the difference between the unconscious , and realm of the soul .
Ether way, I get t what you’re saying. Even though I learned it the hard way, amd can only put the pieces together in retro spect lol
At the end of the day, I don’t care about deeper knowledge . I just want good connections , transparency, and living in the moment with love . As a Leo, I’m sure that makes sense .Of course , my Scorpio sun knows we need the bitter w the sweet lol… amd now Vulcan .
It’s all good .

The subconscious and the soul realm are both Neptunian, but the subconscious is more physical, and the soul realm is more metaphysical and spiritual.

 

[Humanitarian]

I’m gonna channel my inner Eros here, jump in a convo where I’m not invited and drop a clear cut simple statement , in front of the specialists that have much more knowledge than I.

In short, smarty britches , ERIS is the one that got poor Pluto Demoted.
Yep, it was all her fault.

Pluto is still a planet to me, though

As above , so below

All women do is mess stuff up in the most wonderful way lol

You welcome. Psychologically on a collective level, we need her . Makes perfect sense she would hop over. Nobody speaks up, most smile, or just don’t deal with their feelings.
It creates to much toxic. Not good for peoples souls. And she goes to work and will trigger , bring the anger out in others tney don’t even know tney carry, or, just pull it out by antagonizing. If anything, she won’t play by Cappy rules . At the very least , she will trigger by rubbing her authenticity in peoples face.

She’s good and has a lot of work to do. We are lucky I think

Just my 2 cents

Eros loves a person in a romantic way, but Eris loves a person in such a radical way that scares the other person off. I think you wrote "Eris" as "Eros"...

 

[Mad Madam Mimm]

The subconscious and the soul realm are both Neptunian, but the subconscious is more physical, and the soul realm is more metaphysical and spiritual.

Eros loves a person in a romantic way, but Eris loves a person in such a radical way that scares the other person off. I think you wrote "Eris" as "Eros"...

That would be correct. I noticed the error.
As a Scorpio woman with cappy Venus , I’ve experienced enough Eros to understand the two are relative lol
Not that far apart . Love makes people coo coo and yes , also scary when Eros ( tbink mind altering chemical drug , cause it is ) gets threatened. Hello ERIS she enters the building .hope you have homeowners insurance lol… the house could get burnt down I’ve seen this happen . I’ve chilled in the love department . I want agape love it’s the safest .

Interesting, your take on the subconscious.
I’ve been rifling through the photographic emotional memory, trying to free stick energy so I don’t have to think about the things .

I did pretty good , and I’m now considering they are all kinda connected

Quantum

Is that physical ?
Spiritual ?
Or the mental plane ?

I think it’s all of them.

 

[Humanitarian]

That would be correct. I noticed the error.
As a Scorpio woman with cappy Venus , I’ve experienced enough Eros to understand the two are relative lol
Not that far apart . Love makes people coo coo and yes , also scary when Eros ( tbink mind altering chemical drug , cause it is ) gets threatened. Hello ERIS she enters the building .hope you have homeowners insurance lol… the house could get burnt down I’ve seen this happen . I’ve chilled in the love department . I want agape love it’s the safest .

Interesting, your take on the subconscious.
I’ve been rifling through the photographic emotional memory, trying to free stick energy so I don’t have to think about the things .

I did pretty good , and I’m now considering they are all kinda connected

Quantum

Is that physical ?
Spiritual ?
Or the mental plane ?

I think it’s all of them.

Erotic love is like a drug that is legal to me, and Eros loves psychedelic shrooms, LSD, DMT, and the Erisian one is more like meth, coke and morphine...

 

[Humanitarian]

Pluto is masculine, but rules a feminine sign, and Eris is feminine, but rules a masculine sign (THIS IS ONLY A PROPOSAL), and Pluto's masculinity strengthens Scorpio's femininity, so Scorpio is like a snake that is hidden, but if it sees anyone that is threatening, she will bite that person immediately. Eris' femininity makes the Aquarian masculinity more balanced and loving, so Aquarius in this case is like a liberator, wants to fight against the negative beings, but always give radical agape love to all beings of earth, even negative ones. So, Eris wins this battle for me, because of being more loving and not suspicious like Pluto and Scorpio.

 

[Mad Madam Mimm]

Apparently, no one has heard of Septimus, because it hasn't been discovered as of yet. Oh well, maybe someday we'll hear

https://www.edgarcaycenyc.org/edgar...a,the Zodiac such as Polaris and Canus Major.

My comment disappeared … a repeat ..
As I reread , it reminded me of Egypt . They were obsessed with rebirth and the earthy Lotus. Perhaps the lotus can get a proper upgrade next time around .My humble hypothesis. No disrespect to the past, it’s how we learn.

 

[Mad Madam Mimm]

Pluto is masculine, but rules a feminine sign, and Eris is feminine, but rules a masculine sign (THIS IS ONLY A PROPOSAL), and Pluto's masculinity strengthens Scorpio's femininity, so Scorpio is like a snake that is hidden, but if it sees anyone that is threatening, she will bite that person immediately. Eris' femininity makes the Aquarian masculinity more balanced and loving, so Aquarius in this case is like a liberator, wants to fight against the negative beings, but always give radical agape love to all beings of earth, even negative ones. So, Eris wins this battle for me, because of being more loving and not suspicious like Pluto and Scorpio.

Frederick Nietzsche covered this.
You might enjoy him.
He had a hatred for women , yet, I enjoyed his mind. It made sense to me somehow. I should have a seething hate for the man . Personally , i concluded he just never found a real woman . Not saying I am one , but, imagining walking in his shoes I felt the guy.

Not saying he’s not a bad word lol, but, I liked him anyway
Who knows

 

[leomoon]

I’ve heard of serpentine , never septimus.
Should I google this ?
Off the top of my head , I think sepsis lol
That’s a snake bite, son

Jk. It’s not funny
But, it is
The poison the cure

Sorry....here is the reference:

Cayce referred to the planet Vulcan, identified with Pluto, before Pluto was discovered in 1930. In his astrological consultations, Cayce referred to a yet unknown planet named Septimus and to chart influences from stars and constellations outside the Zodiac such as Polaris and Canus Major. In this regard, Cayce drew from a library of ancient knowledge to which few have access today.

The Cayce source believed that the Sidereal Zodiac was more accurate than the Tropical Zodiac used in the West. Reading 3376 - 2 states: “Though oft they are correct, more often ye find them at variance. For most astrologers are nearly 30 degrees off in the reckoning in the present.”

In a reading Cayce gave to a woman whom he said was an astrologer in ancient Egypt, he stated: “The Egyptian and Persian records are quite varied. If the entity would study astrology, do not put the signs in the Egyptian but rather in the Persian, for the Persian interpretations are more proficient than the Egyptian. The variations in time (due to precession) have been corrected by the Persians and not by the Egyptians. The Egyptian calculations are 30 degrees off.” (Reading 2011-3)

https://www.edgarcaycenyc.org/edgar-cayce-on-astrology-the-cosmos-the-self

 

[leomoon]

My comment disappeared … a repeat ..
As I reread , it reminded me of Egypt . They were obsessed with rebirth and the earthy Lotus. Perhaps the lotus can get a proper upgrade next time around .My humble hypothesis. No disrespect to the past, it’s how we learn.

I've been to Egypt 8 or 9 times (lost count)....and if not for arthritis which is rather severe now, and my husband's worries about his health, we'd be going back today. We really miss it there.
Many of the friends were made were from Europe who go every year for 5 months or more. Its a wonderful place to travel to and visit or stay. Friendly people, tons of adventure.