Eris VS Pluto -- Who wins the power war?

[leomoon]

Scouring the internet, I came across this : post #2 from this forum. Although I know the readings quite well, this one escaped me as to exactly what he said back then. In otherwords, he had referred to the then unknown planet of Pluto as both these names, Vulcan (a moon of Pluto) and Septimus, way before the planet was actually discovered in 1930 at Lowell Observatory by the Astronomer Clyde W.Tombaugh.

the TRUE purpose of the planets according to Edgar Cayce

Edgar Cayce (www.near-death.com) According to Cayce's revelations, our experience relates more to the entire solar system and not just three-dimensional life on earth. Cayce stated that each solar system is like a university with many dimensions of learning available and through which we must...

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Pluto was discussed by Cayce years before it was discovered! He had referred to Vulcan as well as to Septimus, the seventh planet from the earth. When Pluto was discovered, Cayce affirmed that Vulcan, or Septimus, was the same planet. Regeneration and a growth in consciousness is indicated, but an affliction brings self-centeredness. Beware of wrath and grudges, warned the sleeping Cayce, "stay attuned to the love force." Pluto represents spiritual growth and development of the soul and its influence is just now developing in the destiny of humanity

 

[leomoon]

In the 1970s, we read that N said "God is Dead" and it was both shocking then but equally intriguing - as intriguing to me as the pronouncement of "God is not a Noun, but a Verb" (I liked that one better)

Implications for Morality and Truth​

The death of God represents a vacuum in the source of absolute truth and morality.


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This section delves into how Nietzsche’s observation reflects the transition towards a more relativistic and subjective understanding of morality and truth.

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The Rise of Nihilism​

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[Lolagranola]

Scouring the internet, I came across this : post #2 from this forum. Although I know the readings quite well, this one escaped me as to exactly what he said back then. In otherwords, he had referred to the then unknown planet of Pluto as both these names, Vulcan (a moon of Pluto) and Septimus, way before the planet was actually discovered in 1930 at Lowell Observatory by the Astronomer Clyde W.Tombaugh.

the TRUE purpose of the planets according to Edgar Cayce

Edgar Cayce (www.near-death.com) According to Cayce's revelations, our experience relates more to the entire solar system and not just three-dimensional life on earth. Cayce stated that each solar system is like a university with many dimensions of learning available and through which we must...

www.astrologyweekly.com

Pluto was discussed by Cayce years before it was discovered! He had referred to Vulcan as well as to Septimus, the seventh planet from the earth. When Pluto was discovered, Cayce affirmed that Vulcan, or Septimus, was the same planet. Regeneration and a growth in consciousness is indicated, but an affliction brings self-centeredness. Beware of wrath and grudges, warned the sleeping Cayce, "stay attuned to the love force." Pluto represents spiritual growth and development of the soul and its influence is just now developing in the destiny of humanity

Esoteric Astrology uses Vulcan, right?

 

[leomoon]

Esoteric Astrology uses Vulcan, right?

I don't know, but wouldn't be surprised either if they did.

If 174,062 Star Trek fans get their way, one of Pluto's moons will soon officially be referred to as Vulcan. The name, inspired by Spock's fictional home planet, won a public poll conducted by the SETI Institute.

'Vulcan' selected by public as name for Pluto's newly discovered moon

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[Humanitarian]

Esoteric Astrology uses Vulcan, right?

Yes, as it even uses Vulcan as the esoteric and hierarchical ruler of Taurus!

 

[Nexus7]

I am most curious to see if there isn't another big planetary body, as opposed to a dwarf, waiting to be discovered. Wouldn't that be something! Some astronomers think the orbital inconsistencies, pointing to another as-yet unknown player in our system, could actually be the pull of a black hole somewhere, down which we could all end up gurgling down in billions of mile Mia to come. Still, the Galactic Centre is a black hole.....

What I trivies me about Eris, is that it takes a whole millennium to make a return! That means it might bring to light whole long-term Zeitgeist we have previously been unaware of! As it's orbit is eccentric, it can spend longer in some signs than in others, and it had been in Aries for a long time now. One astrologer I encountered thought it might have something to say about the egoism around at the moment, inflated so by social media.

The more belligérant side of it may manifest as a tendency to get obsessively stuck in non-negotosble sticking points. Well, I did check Putin's chart and noticed an exact Mercury opposition Eris. I would imagine to gauge what Eris does, orbs would have to be kept narrow.

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs both had it conjunct their Moons, geniuses who were also not the easiest of people to work for. Marx had Eris conjunct his Ascendant, in Aquarius. So there is a sense of pioneering with Eris, possibly creating polarised ways of looking at the world. Apple versus Windows in the birth of the home computer, for example.

 

[FraterAC]

I've been observing Eris for some time now. I've expressed my opinions before, but the main thing is Eris does have a discernible if yet not completely understood influence.

 

[Nexus7]

I've been observing Eris for some time now. I've expressed my opinions before, but the main thing is Eris does have a discernible if yet not completely understood influence.

Care to share what you have discerned about the influence of Eris so far?

 

[FraterAC]

I posted some thoughts on Eris at #14, #21 et seq above in this thread, FWIW.
I also put Eris in some historic events, above.
Eris figures in the death of Marie Antoinette (in the Celebrity Horoscopes thread).

 

[Nexus7]

Yes, as it even uses Vulcan as the esoteric and hierarchical ruler of Taurus!

There were rumours around in the 1830's that a new planet with Mercury had been discovered, and the name Vulcan was mooted for it. Later on, it was seen to just be a trick of the eye,, or the telescope. It is discussed on Wiki. But it did seem to inspire the imagination of one or two other writers.

 

[Nexus7]

I posted some thoughts on Eris at #14, #21 et seq above in this thread, FWIW.
I also put Eris in some historic events, above.
Eris figures in the death of Marie Antoinette (in the Celebrity Horoscopes thread).

OK I'll take a look at these.

 

[FraterAC]

OK I'll take a look at these.

I posted quite a bit on this back then, but this may be the most succinct.

• #26

 

[Nexus7]

I posted quite a bit on this back then, but this may be the most succinct.

• #26

That sounds similar to this very uncompromising view I get of Eris. Apparently it is active for the mundane charts of Israel and the Hezbollah.

Polarisation and individualisation away from the dreaded regressive collective do seem to bring many dangers in their wake. We might remember that it's currently being in Aries might distort somewhat our understanding of its core purpose?

 

[Humanitarian]

There were rumours around in the 1830's that a new planet with Mercury had been discovered, and the name Vulcan was mooted for it. Later on, it was seen to just be a trick of the eye,, or the telescope. It is discussed on Wiki. But it did seem to inspire the imagination of one or two other writers.

Vulcan is used as a Uranian planet in Uranian astrology tho.

 

[Nexus7]

Vulcan is used as a Uranian planet in Uranian astrology tho.

It's got a slightly different name. Vulcanus. And it is classed as hypothetical.

 

[Humanitarian]

It's got a slightly different name. Vulcanus. And it is classed as hypothetical.

Vulcan ≠ Vulcanus. Vulcanus is trans-Neptunian, Vulcan is closer to the Sun than Mercury. Both are hypothetical