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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]I found this online and thought I'd might share :)
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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]How to Read a Horary Chart: seven simple rules for beginners[/FONT]


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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Horary astrology is the most elegant of astrological studies. It can appear mind-bogglingly difficult to beginners. However, there are a few easy ‘rules’, which, once you understand them thoroughly, will enable you to read almost any chart in less than ten minutes. Most horary charts can be read almost instantly for an answer, but like an onion, there are layers to a chart which reveal themselves, the more you study them.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]But here are some basics to get you started:[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Rule Number One: Know who is who[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Figure out ‘who is who’ in a chart, before you try to read it! If you are asking a question about something involving you, you get the Ascendant as your ruler. If you are asking about someone else, you need to figure out ‘who’ they are in the chart: [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Your lost keys? 2nd house[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Your sister, brother, or noisy neighbour? 3rd house[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Your child? 5th house [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Your cat? 6th house[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Your boyfriend? Girlfriend? Ex-spouse? Worst enemy? The hot guy you saw in the supermarket? 7th house. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Do not, I repeat, do NOT use the 5th house to represent a person in love questions! The 5th house can describe sexual activity, but it rarely describes the person with whom you are active! A significator in the 5th shows an interest in sexual matters or light ‘fun’, rather than a serious relationship.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Sometimes using the house rulers doesn’t give you a very good description of the person you are asking about. In this case, use traditional rulers instead, and see if they ‘fit’ better:[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Sun: men in the prime of their lives (say, late 20s – mid 40s); husbands[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Saturn: older men; father figures; older people in general[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]The Moon: women; wives; young people[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Venus: girlfriends, usually; wives, sometimes; lovers[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Rule Number Two (the most important rule): Keep it simple at first.[/FONT]




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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]In horary it can be very tempting to examine the relationships between every single planet in the chart, to see what they’re ‘doing’ and what they ‘mean’ in the chart. Don’t! [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]All you really need in most charts is:[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]The 1st house ruling planet
The planet ruling the house of the quesited
The Moon
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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]What are these three things ‘doing’ with one another? Applying? Separating? Are they ‘friendly’ to one another (Sun in Sagittarius and Jupiter in Leo, for example)? Do they ‘dislike’ one another?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]The extras: Forget about asteroids, Arabic Parts, and outer planets (and quincunxes, sesquiquadrates, and semisextiles), until you get really good at understanding how the rest of a chart works using the traditional seven planets and the basic aspects: conjunction, sextile, trine, square, and opposition. These extra things make a chart ‘messy’ and don’t do much other than support what is already in the chart somewhere. Don’t base your reading around what outer planets are doing![/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Know when to stop: If a planet needs to make an aspect to several other planets before reaching the planet you want it to reach, this is interference. Don’t read a chart as: ‘First the Moon conjuncts Mars and then it sextiles Jupiter and then it squares Saturn and then it trines my planet!’. The answer will usually stop at Mars.[/FONT]
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Rule Number Three (Part One): Action equals answer.
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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Unlike natal astrology, the action of the planets in a horary chart is vital to understanding what the answer is. An aspect isn’t standing still in a horary chart; it is either applying (moving toward an aspect) or separating (moving away from an aspect). Very rarely will an aspect be ‘perfected’ in a chart.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Rule Number Three (Part Two): Horary is symbolic.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Are the planets separating from an aspect? This shows something that is ending or going away. Are the planets applying? This shows something (or someone) moving toward one another. Do the planets not aspect one another at all? No aspect = no relationship. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]In relationship questions, the quesited’s significator in conjunction with another planet (often Venus) means, literally, that the quesited is with someone else. Venus in the 7th house often shows this, too (if you or the quesited is not Venus in the chart).[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]In lost object horaries, which house is the 2nd house ruler in? This will often show you right away where your lost object is. Is the 2nd house ruler placed in the 9th house? Try the upstairs study. Is it in the 10th? You might have left the object at work. In the 6th? Check under your washing machine or out in the tool shed![/FONT]
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Rule Number Four: The Moon is very important!
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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Many beginners overlook how important the Moon is in horary. The Moon is often thought of as a ‘co-significator’ for the person asking the question, but the Moon really should be thought of as the engine in the ‘car’ of the chart: the Moon drives the action of the chart (or not).[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]What is the Moon doing? What house is she in? Is she in a strong house (1st, 4th, 7th, 10th)? Is she in a weak house (6th, 8th, 12th)? Is she in a strong sign (Cancer or Taurus)? Is she weak (Capricorn or Scorpio)? Is she applying to one of the significators, or to an important angle? Is she separating from a significator? Is she Void of Course?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]A comment on the Void of Course Moon:[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]There are a lot of arguments about what makes the Moon void, but here is a simple way to think about it: if the Moon has left an aspect to an inner planet, and does not make another aspect until it changes signs, it is probably void. If it will make an aspect to another planet immediately after changing signs, it is not void (but you will need to think about what ‘changing signs’ means to your question). If the Moon has just entered a sign, and does not make an aspect to another planet for several degrees (say 10 degrees at the least), it is void...for now. This implies a waiting period for the ‘engine’ to start. There are more accurate orbs for each planet, so this is just a rough estimate. The point is, for the Moon to be the most effective an aspect needs to happen soon.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Rule Number Five: You can’t ask twice just because you didn’t like the first answer.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Well, you can, but you shouldn’t. This is self-explanatory. Many people like to give a ‘you can ask again after three months’ answer to this, but this is an erroneous time-period. You can ask again when the situation changes and most situations don’t change in a matter of hours or days or even months. Asking, “Does he love me?” over and over (often in different forms of the question) will not give you a different answer, if he doesn’t love you!
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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Rule Number Six: Context is EVERYTHING.[/FONT]


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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]People often mistakenly believe that ‘a square means “no” and a trine means “yes”’, but this isn’t always the case! You must understand the context of the question, and the reason they asked the question in the first place. A square can still mean a ‘yes’ if the planets are friendly to one another and are applying: this might mean ‘yes, but you’ll have to work hard for it’. Likewise, an applying trine in a question of divorce might mean that they won’t get divorced, but will reconcile instead. Be careful with this![/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Don’t understand what the querent is asking? They probably don’t, either. Ask for clarification. If you don’t understand the question, you’ll get a wrong answer. Don’t make assumptions about what the querent is asking, either! Ask them whether they broke up already, or if they are actually looking for a job right now.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Rule Number Seven: Considerations are not strictures![/FONT]


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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]William Lilly’s ‘Considerations to better judge a horary chart’ are just that: considerations, or things to consider. Having one or more of the considerations present in a horary chart does not prevent you from reading the chart. What it does is send up a little red flag: be extra careful about reading the chart; go slowly and ask a lot of questions.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Late ascendant? The querent is either in despair and asks out of hopelessness, or, more likely, already knows what the answer is (and feels hopeless about it). This doesn’t stop you from reading the chart. However, it probably has an answer the querent doesn’t want to hear.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Early ascendant? To quote a former US President: “Not enough information. Wouldn’t be prudent.” The situation is developing; there is a LOT of room for things to change. Keep this in mind.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Moon in Via Combusta? This shows that the querent is stressed out and anxious, and may not be thinking clearly. The situation (or the querent, sometimes) is unstable.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Saturn in the 7th? The first thing to figure out is whether Saturn is one of the significators; if so, no problem. If the question is about a relationship (it often is) and Saturn isn’t a significator, take heed: Saturn rules blockages and obstacles, so the querent doesn’t have an easy ride ahead.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Horary has a vast and ancient body of knowledge behind it; it is a subtle art and takes years and years of reading and practice to really understand. But using these basic rules and some common sense will help you to read all but the most complicated of horary charts. [/FONT]
 
Thank you Arijana. A great and simple start to horary!
 
Hi All,

Question:

Suppose I have a horary question "Where are my keys?" but I did not write down the time.

Then, two days later I decide to ask the same question again and proceed to draw the chart based on the time of the second time the question was asked.

Is it negated since I drew the chart at the second instance of asking the same question?

Thanks!
 
@ Arijana :

Thanks for the article. I'm sure to will add to my level of understanding. :joyful:

@ dr. farr :

I think this is more for kindergarteners. You're a PHD ! You devise your own methods !:biggrin: The rest of us (especially me) struggle to understand even the basic methods. Perhaps you could author a book called "Horary for Dummies." A similar title from the Dummies series for basic Astrology is already available and is selling like hot cakes !:biggrin:

@ Lilly :

Thanks for thread. :wink:

@ 23 :

I think you have entered the first grade while I am still stuck in kindy. :unsure: Any luck with your aunt-in-law's partner's father's question ?
 
Hi All,

Question:

Suppose I have a horary question "Where are my keys?" but I did not write down the time.

Then, two days later I decide to ask the same question again and proceed to draw the chart based on the time of the second time the question was asked.

Is it negated since I drew the chart at the second instance of asking the same question?

Thanks!


(Note; others will likely disagree with the following)

From my understanding of divinatory matters, no, the chart drawn at the second time of thinking of the question would be accurate. I take the moment for divination as the time when action to divine is first taken-not just the thought of divining, but the first action toward making the divination.
This raises a related question: when a question is transmitted to the diviner, what is the relevant time to be used? Is it when the question was transmitted (and from the place it was transmitted) or is it the time and place the diviner first reads it? In my understanding of divination, it is at the time when (and place of) the person doing the divining (the diviner) first realizes (becomes aware of) the question AND takes the first step to divine it (sets up a chart, etc)
 
[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]I found this online and thought I'd might share :)
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How to Read a Horary Chart: seven simple rules for beginners




Horary astrology is the most elegant of astrological studies. It can appear mind-bogglingly difficult to beginners. However, there are a few easy ‘rules’, which, once you understand them thoroughly, will enable you to read almost any chart in less than ten minutes. Most horary charts can be read almost instantly for an answer, but like an onion, there are layers to a chart which reveal themselves, the more you study them.
But here are some basics to get you started:


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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Rule Number One: Know who is who[/FONT]
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Figure out ‘who is who’ in a chart, before you try to read it! If you are asking a question about something involving you, you get the Ascendant as your ruler. If you are asking about someone else, you need to figure out ‘who’ they are in the chart:
Your lost keys? 2nd house
Your sister, brother, or noisy neighbour? 3rd house
Your child? 5th house
Your cat? 6th house
Your boyfriend? Girlfriend? Ex-spouse? Worst enemy? The hot guy you saw in the supermarket? 7th house.
Do not, I repeat, do NOT use the 5th house to represent a person in love questions! The 5th house can describe sexual activity, but it rarely describes the person with whom you are active! A significator in the 5th shows an interest in sexual matters or light ‘fun’, rather than a serious relationship.
Sometimes using the house rulers doesn’t give you a very good description of the person you are asking about. In this case, use traditional rulers instead, and see if they ‘fit’ better:
Sun: men in the prime of their lives (say, late 20s – mid 40s); husbands
Saturn: older men; father figures; older people in general
The Moon: women; wives; young people
Venus: girlfriends, usually; wives, sometimes; lovers


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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Rule Number Two (the most important rule): Keep it simple at first.[/FONT]




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In horary it can be very tempting to examine the relationships between every single planet in the chart, to see what they’re ‘doing’ and what they ‘mean’ in the chart. Don’t!
All you really need in most charts is:
The 1st house ruling planet
The planet ruling the house of the quesited
The Moon
What are these three things ‘doing’ with one another? Applying? Separating? Are they ‘friendly’ to one another (Sun in Sagittarius and Jupiter in Leo, for example)? Do they ‘dislike’ one another?
The extras: Forget about asteroids, Arabic Parts, and outer planets (and quincunxes, sesquiquadrates, and semisextiles), until you get really good at understanding how the rest of a chart works using the traditional seven planets and the basic aspects: conjunction, sextile, trine, square, and opposition. These extra things make a chart ‘messy’ and don’t do much other than support what is already in the chart somewhere. Don’t base your reading around what outer planets are doing!
Know when to stop: If a planet needs to make an aspect to several other planets before reaching the planet you want it to reach, this is interference. Don’t read a chart as: ‘First the Moon conjuncts Mars and then it sextiles Jupiter and then it squares Saturn and then it trines my planet!’. The answer will usually stop at Mars.

Rule Number Three (Part One): Action equals answer.




Unlike natal astrology, the action of the planets in a horary chart is vital to understanding what the answer is. An aspect isn’t standing still in a horary chart; it is either applying (moving toward an aspect) or separating (moving away from an aspect). Very rarely will an aspect be ‘perfected’ in a chart.
Rule Number Three (Part Two): Horary is symbolic.
Are the planets separating from an aspect? This shows something that is ending or going away. Are the planets applying? This shows something (or someone) moving toward one another. Do the planets not aspect one another at all? No aspect = no relationship.
In relationship questions, the quesited’s significator in conjunction with another planet (often Venus) means, literally, that the quesited is with someone else. Venus in the 7th house often shows this, too (if you or the quesited is not Venus in the chart).
In lost object horaries, which house is the 2nd house ruler in? This will often show you right away where your lost object is. Is the 2nd house ruler placed in the 9th house? Try the upstairs study. Is it in the 10th? You might have left the object at work. In the 6th? Check under your washing machine or out in the tool shed!

Rule Number Four: The Moon is very important!


Many beginners overlook how important the Moon is in horary. The Moon is often thought of as a ‘co-significator’ for the person asking the question, but the Moon really should be thought of as the engine in the ‘car’ of the chart: the Moon drives the action of the chart (or not).
What is the Moon doing? What house is she in? Is she in a strong house (1st, 4th, 7th, 10th)? Is she in a weak house (6th, 8th, 12th)? Is she in a strong sign (Cancer or Taurus)? Is she weak (Capricorn or Scorpio)? Is she applying to one of the significators, or to an important angle? Is she separating from a significator? Is she Void of Course?
A comment on the Void of Course Moon:
There are a lot of arguments about what makes the Moon void, but here is a simple way to think about it: if the Moon has left an aspect to an inner planet, and does not make another aspect until it changes signs, it is probably void. If it will make an aspect to another planet immediately after changing signs, it is not void (but you will need to think about what ‘changing signs’ means to your question). If the Moon has just entered a sign, and does not make an aspect to another planet for several degrees (say 10 degrees at the least), it is void...for now. This implies a waiting period for the ‘engine’ to start. There are more accurate orbs for each planet, so this is just a rough estimate. The point is, for the Moon to be the most effective an aspect needs to happen soon.


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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Rule Number Five: You can’t ask twice just because you didn’t like the first answer.[/FONT]
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Well, you can, but you shouldn’t. This is self-explanatory. Many people like to give a ‘you can ask again after three months’ answer to this, but this is an erroneous time-period. You can ask again when the situation changes and most situations don’t change in a matter of hours or days or even months. Asking, “Does he love me?” over and over (often in different forms of the question) will not give you a different answer, if he doesn’t love you!


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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Rule Number Six: Context is EVERYTHING.[/FONT]


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People often mistakenly believe that ‘a square means “no” and a trine means “yes”’, but this isn’t always the case! You must understand the context of the question, and the reason they asked the question in the first place. A square can still mean a ‘yes’ if the planets are friendly to one another and are applying: this might mean ‘yes, but you’ll have to work hard for it’. Likewise, an applying trine in a question of divorce might mean that they won’t get divorced, but will reconcile instead. Be careful with this!
Don’t understand what the querent is asking? They probably don’t, either. Ask for clarification. If you don’t understand the question, you’ll get a wrong answer. Don’t make assumptions about what the querent is asking, either! Ask them whether they broke up already, or if they are actually looking for a job right now.


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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Rule Number Seven: Considerations are not strictures![/FONT]


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William Lilly’s ‘Considerations to better judge a horary chart’ are just that: considerations, or things to consider. Having one or more of the considerations present in a horary chart does not prevent you from reading the chart. What it does is send up a little red flag: be extra careful about reading the chart; go slowly and ask a lot of questions.
Late ascendant? The querent is either in despair and asks out of hopelessness, or, more likely, already knows what the answer is (and feels hopeless about it). This doesn’t stop you from reading the chart. However, it probably has an answer the querent doesn’t want to hear.
Early ascendant? To quote a former US President: “Not enough information. Wouldn’t be prudent.” The situation is developing; there is a LOT of room for things to change. Keep this in mind.
Moon in Via Combusta? This shows that the querent is stressed out and anxious, and may not be thinking clearly. The situation (or the querent, sometimes) is unstable.
Saturn in the 7th? The first thing to figure out is whether Saturn is one of the significators; if so, no problem. If the question is about a relationship (it often is) and Saturn isn’t a significator, take heed: Saturn rules blockages and obstacles, so the querent doesn’t have an easy ride ahead.
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[FONT=Arial, Sans, Verdana]Horary has a vast and ancient body of knowledge behind it; it is a subtle art and takes years and years of reading and practice to really understand. But using these basic rules and some common sense will help you to read all but the most complicated of horary charts. [/FONT]
Thanks...easy to follow and important reminders to those of us attempting to gain a correct, working knowledge for interpreting horary questions
 
MORE HORARY TIPS :)
The theory behind Horary is very simple:
1) there is a Question that weighs very heavily on your mind.
2) when you have a clear understanding of what it is that you really want to know, you cast a chart or an astrologer casts one for you
3) That freezes the Planets as they transit the heavens at that moment (hence: Horary)
4) the Rising Sign and Planet that rules the Rising Sign represents you
5) the House, or often more correctly, the Sign that represents the Matter you're asking about and the Planet that rules that Sign represents the Matter. The Matter can be a person or a thing or an idea (like a rumor or a dream).
6) the relationship between those two rulers tells you what has happened, and what is yet to come. That relationship is in the form of aspects. If there are no aspects, then there is nothing to come.
7) the Moon plays a special dual-role signifying the State of Mind of the Querent and also how things play out, how they happen, and when they happen. When there are no aspects formed by the Moon (ie it is Void of Course) then nothing will happen.
Note that there are a handful of certain special select Horary Questions where a Void of Course Moon is not relevant. Those are often war, conflict or legal questions, or Questions related to Career.
8) in addition to forming aspects, those Planets must also have Perfect Reception, as opposed to simple Reception. Reception is about "allowing." For example if Mars is applying in aspect to Jupiter, and Jupiter receives Mars then Jupiter is allowing Mars to act.
Jupiter is effectively saying, "Go ahead and do that thing that you do." If Jupiter does not receive Mars, then Jupiter is effectively saying, "Go away and leave me alone. Go. Get out of here."
If it is a Sign of Enmity, like Mars in Capricorn (the Fall of Jupiter) then Jupiter is effectively saying, "Cease and Desist. I will stop you from doing anything. If necessary, I may even get violent to stop you." And that just might be the case if Jupiter were also in a Violent Sign, otherwise Jupiter would just keep slamming doors in your face.
9) How things actually play out depends a lot on the "strength" of the Planets involved. The strength of the Planets indicates their ability to do act and do things and carry out plans and make things happen.
A Planet that is not just in its own Sign, but also in its Triplicity or Term, and is Direct in Motion, Fast in Speed, Angular or Succedent, in Hayz, in a trine aspect with Venus/Jupiter/Sun is very powerful. That's a person with a purpose in life who has both the will and ability to act and make things happen.
A Planet that is Slow in Speed, Retrograde, in Fall/Detriment, Cadent, and not in Sect or worse is Out-of Sect isn't going to be able to do anything, even when there is Perfect Reception in the chart, this person is going to botch every thing up and turn a dream about ponies and gum-drops into a nightmare, because they don't have the strength or will to make things happen.
10) when charts have early/late Ascendants, Void of Course Moons, Moon via Combusta, Saturn in the 1st or 7th House (when not a significator) you can look at the chart for reasons why you are getting those warnings.
Often a non-significator Planet is making an aspect to one of the primary significators. Sextiles and trines usually indicate on-going events which first must be completed before anything can happen.
Conjunctions, squares and opposition usually indicate obstacles that are preventing things from happening, and with the "hard" aspects sometimes things can still happen if those obstacles can be overcome.
The condition and placement of the Moon/Ascendant Ruler will tell you the State of Mind and what kind of person the Querent is; good-hearted, or ambivalent, or in sheer terror, in a total panic, has the "stink of desperation" or is immature and selfish, looking do to harm, or is someone you wouldn't let your dog go near.
The Planet that is the Quesited/Matter will tell you about them, but not with the same clarity as the Querent. A poorly placed 10th House Ruler might be a job you really don't want, because it ain't all that or isn't what you think it is. A poorly placed 7th House Ruler is someone you might not really want to be with, or something you don't really want to buy and so on.
For a Planet (like the Ascendant Ruler) in Detriment, it is important that it make an aspect to the 1st House (ie it is not inconjunct in the 2nd, 6th, 8th or 12th Houses), and for other significators that it aspect the House it rules.
A Planet that is inconjunct to the House it rules can't witness or give testimony to the affairs of that House. That means it cannot control those events, and being weak in Detriment has even less control and less ability to effect outcomes.
 
Thanks...easy to follow and important reminders to those of us attempting to gain a correct, working knowledge for interpreting horary questions
I wholeheartedly agree! Thank you for bringing this forward again.
If one can put these reminders into practice, there will be a lot of good information from the chart to answer the question.
 
]In relationship questions, the quesited’s significator in conjunction with another planet (often Venus) means, literally, that the quesited is with someone else. Venus in the 7th house often shows this, too (if you or the quesited is not Venus in the chart).
Hello.
One little doubt: since a Venus in the seventh can indicate the quesited is with someone else, not the querent unless Vênus is her significator, so, a planet in seventh can indicate who he is with.
What if the querent significators are in seventh?
Could mean both, 1, the person with whom he is envolved with but also, 2, the querent is really in love with him?

Hope my question is clear.
 
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Hello.
One little doubt: since a Venus in the seventh can indicate the quesited is with someone else, not the quesiter, unless Vênus is her significator, so, a planet in seventh can indicate who he is with.
What if the quesiter significators are in seventh?
Could mean both, 1, the person he is with but also, 2, the quesiter is really in love with him?


Hope my question is clear.
And I hope I understand you correctly. If not, we will talk some more until I do.

In this special case that the querent [person asking the question] is in the 7th, then it indicates the querent is interested in the 7th house person, not that the querent is with the 7th house person.
Does seem to answer you?
 
And I hope I understand you correctly. If not, we will talk some more until I do.

In this special case that the querent [person asking the question] is in the 7th, then it indicates the querent is interested in the 7th house person, not that the querent is with the 7th house person.
Does seem to answer you?
THank you. Not really answers as Venus there, when not his significator nor the querent, doesnt mean there is a lady interested in him. It means he is actually envolved with her!
 
THank you. Not really answers as Venus there, when not his significator nor the querent, doesnt mean there is a lady interested in him. It means he is actually envolved with her!
If Venus is querent,
then Venus in the 7th means that the querent is interested in 7th house person,

If Venus is NOT querent,
then Venus in the 7th means that there is someone/Venus in the 7th house person's life. That the 7th house person is with someone else.
 
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