Dima Gur
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Hi everyone,
When you try to time events in horary, do you factor in retro movement?
The usual, tread-of-the-mill timing technique would factor in the movement by degrees of the two significators, but what if one turned retrograde before the aspect would be perfected.
Would you ignore the zodiacal portions in which that significator was retro? Or would you factor in as "proper" degrees-passed/time-units calculated?
J. Frawley and others mention that if a planet is applying to a retro planet, the matter will probably perfect sooner. Though, I wonder if it's only that...
Here's an example chart, though it's not a real horary.
Just to test the issue.
In it let's pretend a querent asks about "When will I meet my brother next"?
In the chart the querent is Mercury and his Brother is the Sun.
Mercury is in 0 degrees of Libra, it would venture out till the 8th degree of Libra, then turn retro, and would cnj. the Sun in 0 Libra.
In terms of timing this event, would you say that Mercury needs to pass 16 time units (hours/days/weeks/months)?
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Or would you say he has to pass half a degree (which is the distance Merc had to pass from his original position to the position in which he met the Sun, disregarding the rest of his path)?
* Half a degree would be half a day/week/month/year/whatever
Thanks ;-)
P.S. Yes, I know; some may claim that the event (meeting brother) would be prevented as the chart may contain prohibitions, refranations and other such party-poopers. However, some horary authorities claim that events we know would happen for-sure (or almost for-sure), we could "push the significators further in time", treating prohibitions as events on-the-way, rather than them totally prohibiting.
When you try to time events in horary, do you factor in retro movement?
The usual, tread-of-the-mill timing technique would factor in the movement by degrees of the two significators, but what if one turned retrograde before the aspect would be perfected.
Would you ignore the zodiacal portions in which that significator was retro? Or would you factor in as "proper" degrees-passed/time-units calculated?
J. Frawley and others mention that if a planet is applying to a retro planet, the matter will probably perfect sooner. Though, I wonder if it's only that...
Here's an example chart, though it's not a real horary.
Just to test the issue.
In it let's pretend a querent asks about "When will I meet my brother next"?
In the chart the querent is Mercury and his Brother is the Sun.
Mercury is in 0 degrees of Libra, it would venture out till the 8th degree of Libra, then turn retro, and would cnj. the Sun in 0 Libra.
In terms of timing this event, would you say that Mercury needs to pass 16 time units (hours/days/weeks/months)?
--
Or would you say he has to pass half a degree (which is the distance Merc had to pass from his original position to the position in which he met the Sun, disregarding the rest of his path)?
* Half a degree would be half a day/week/month/year/whatever
Thanks ;-)
P.S. Yes, I know; some may claim that the event (meeting brother) would be prevented as the chart may contain prohibitions, refranations and other such party-poopers. However, some horary authorities claim that events we know would happen for-sure (or almost for-sure), we could "push the significators further in time", treating prohibitions as events on-the-way, rather than them totally prohibiting.
