piercethevale
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Piercethevale I do appreciate that what you had to say had merit but I just wasn't able to process it.
Now you have piqued my interest about Sabian degrees ..I never thought about it before.
My North Node ( in Scorpio & 8th house) degree is at 29 degrees , 01 minutes.
Would you kindly be able to give me your insights on it?
Interesting Sabian Symbol for a North Node and it so happens to be the Part of Destiny derived from the composite natal chart of aother member of the forum and my own.
I'm afraid however that it's one that is most difficult for me to try to put into perspective for either a chart destiny of the destiny of the Soul, as the North Node has been described to be by many an astrologer.
The Nodes of my own natal Moon are in reverse polarity from that of those in the natal chart of the USA [the "Zero Hour" chart, 12:00:01 A.M. July 4, 1776 Philadelphia, Penn.] and also those of my good friend and fellow yogi, Suryakant, whom was so instrumental in helping me discover and recognize the natal chart chart of a well known religious figure, of much historical note, that I wrote a book about.
The 7th degree of Leo and Aquarius also happen to be the M.C. and I.C. of the same fellow member of the forum I mentioned as to having a shared Part of Destiny in the 30th of Scorpio.
My North Node is in the 7th of Aquarius and that of the U.S.A. and my friend, Suryakant, in the 7th of Leo.
Briefly, as for the purpose of introduction to the understanding here, I'll give the description of the Sabian Symbols for those two degrees along with the "Keynote" synopsis and the "Keyword" as written by Dane Rudhyar in his book "An Astrological Mandala"
"LEO 7°: THE CONSTELLATIONS OF STARS SHINE BRILLIANTLY IN THE NIGHT SKY.
KEYNOTE: The power of basic spiritual values which refer to man's common humanity and to all enduring archetypes.", "The Keyword here is PERMANENCE"
"AQUARIUS 7°: A CHILD IS SEEN BEING BORN OUT OF AN EGG.
KEYNOTE: The emergence of new mutations according to the great rhythms of the cosmos." And Rudhyar's "Keywords": "It can be said to announce the EMERGENCE OF GLOBAL MAN for the New Age. The power of the whole is focused within him in perfect freedom from ancient standards of value based on local conditions."
Thus, perhaps you can see in the two symbols above that Aquarius 7*represents from where the origins of the nation arose from. It was from the efforts of such "Global Men and Women" and as for the very reason following their particular spiritual paths, for the most part, as they were being repressed in Europe.
I'd like to interject here that while Aquarius 7* is my particular destination for my own Soul it isn't for my nation as that is to reverse that polarity. I can easily see the description of the New World Order in the 7th of Aquarius and I certainly don't believe in that political rhetoric.
Now, as to your own natal chart and the Moons' Nodes, you'l have to decide for yourself how they describe the context in which is your own Souls' destiny. I'm sorry that I can't be of anymore help.[ibid.]
"SCORPIO 30°: CHILDREN IN HALLOWEEN COSTUMES INDULGE IN VARIOUS PRANKS.
KEYNOTE: The periodic outlets society furnishes within traditional limits to still-immature energies.
In the symbol for the first degree of Scorpio we see individuals beginning to be involved in the collective life of a large city. This leads them to a great diversity of experience which stimulates their sense of belonging to a vaster whole; or it may stimulate their rebellious instincts. Some of the latter in most cases cannot be completely overcome, but society has built in several ways of allowing them to operate under ritualistic procedures that are sufficiently safe to the collectivity. Wherever this symbol is found, the need for such outlets is shown to exist. But the rules of the game have to be obeyed.
This is the last symbol referring to Scene Sixteen of the great ritual of cyclic being. It tells us that in any feeling experience of collective living and inter-human relationships one has to deal with unregenerated and centrifugal elements. These should be carefully managed. They can also be controlled by the power of mind – the Sagitarrian way. The symbol points to an imaginative RELIEF FROM TENSION."
As I wrote it would be a tough call for me to make how and what it means to you.
Here is what Dane gave for the 30th of Leo [and note that it is the Sabian Symbol for my Part of Astrology and it also happens to be president Trumps Asc. As for my Part of Astrology I find it to be indicative of my sharing of all my findings...as for the president, well, some people think that He says anything that just happens to be on his mind...] [ibid.]
"LEO 30°: AN UNSEALED LETTER.
KEYNOTE: The realization by the individual that all thoughts and all messages are inevitably to be shared with all men.
Coming as it does as the end of this tenth scene and linked with the last degree of the zodiacal sign, Leo, this symbol seems at first quite puzzling; when it has been thought of as an isolated symbol, its essential meaning has not been apparent. The fact that a letter is unsealed does not imply a trust that other people will not read its contents, but rather the idea that the contents are for all men to read. The letter contains a public message in the sense that when man has reached the stage of true mental repolarization and development — which we see in the very first symbol for Leo — he has actually become a participant in the One Mind of humanity. Nothing can really be hidden, except superficially and for a brief time. What any man thinks and deeply realizes becomes the property of all men. Nothing is more senseless than possessiveness in the realm of ideas. If God speaks to a man, Man hears the word. Nothing can remain permanently 'sealed'.
As this thirtieth sequence of five symbols ends, it is made clear to us, and particularly to the inherently proud Leo type, that all that takes form within the mind of a man belongs to all men. Communication and SHARING must always prevail over the will to glorify oneself by claiming sole possession of ideas and information."
Again, my apologies for being so presumptuous, earlier, and I thank you for your understanding and your interest in the Sabian Symbols.
ptv