Natal NN/Saturn Conjunct Transiting NN/Chiron in 6th House - Diagnosis: Stiff Person Syndrome

[CancerCancerScorpio]

I am a twin. And my twin was diagnosed with stiff person syndrome. I just was tested and came up positive for autoimmune abnormality. We were born five minutes apart.

We have natal North node at 15° Aries in the 6th conjunct Saturn at 24° in the sixth. Transiting north node conjunct Chiron is at 16° Aries. Today, I was given the results of my blood test, and made an appointment for further testing.

Stiff person syndrome is a very rare disease. Only 600 in the United States have it.

I am wondering if anyone can tell me what they think about our Natal North node conjunct Saturn experiencing this transit in north node conjunct Chiron. From what I have read Saturn in the sixth of health can bring challenging and debilitating health results, and conjunct Chiron meaning with the wound that never heals. Is this transit a notice of debilitating health effects for the rest of our lives?

We would greatly appreciate anyone’s thoughts on this aspect in transit.

MUCH LOVE

 

[Frisiangal]

Hi,
A natal chart would be helpful to see how Saturn, THE planet related to stiffness of any kind and a tendency towards issues that become chronic of nature, is related through (harsh) aspect to the functioning of other planets. Its natal position in Aries could relate to a lack of self assertion, drive of active will, etc.. Aries is 'the just get up and go' sign and Saturn in it can create the (inner OR outer) wall of authorative discipline that one has to deal with in order to achieve it.
Disorders not inherent from birth and arise as a result of situations in life can see an influence from Moon.
Autoimmune issues could see a relationship with Neptune. Anything considered 'ab-normal' can bring in Uranus, that has a different mindset to anything that Saturn would see kept to traditional ways and values.
(The planetary ephemeris for a birth date mid 1968 shows a number of planets in difficult aspect with each other around 24* of their signs? Would that fit?)

I had never heard of 'stiff person syndrome' until Celine Dion was diagnosed as having it. I looked up her chart via Astro. com's databank.
Born in 1968. Coincidence that she has a Sun-Saturn-NN conjunction in Aries ?

 

[CancerCancerScorpio]

Hello Frisiangal,

Thank you for your response!

I always have a problem with trying to post a chart, but, yes, my twin and I were born mid-1968. DOB: 06/25/68; 3:41 and 3:46 pm; Los Angeles, CA.

I didn’t realize Celine was born in 1968, as well. My twin and I do have NEPTUNE AT 24 of Scorpio and SATURN at 24 of Aries. We also have a tight four personal planet stellium, along with Mercury, in the 8th house.

It is interesting, and I wonder if I will be susceptible to also having Stiff Person Syndrome? I don’t mind leaving this earth because life here is difficult, but it’s how I leave that worries me.

Thank you so much!!!

 

[Ecliptique]

Hello CancerCancerScorpio,

this year, the transits of Jupiter, Uranus and Pluto in your birth charts (very little different) indicate to me that you must give yourself the means to achieve your objectives in order to promote what is of interest to you, start from your ideas while mastering what you need to do and while making yourself appreciated. Until the end of April 2024, this should lead you to assert yourself in being loved by promoting what you need to do. From the end of August 2024, you will want at all costs to give yourself the means to be appreciated and to be loved. You will want to be considered by others while knowing about it. This is what will be of value to you and will encourage you to be loved...
Hope this helpful.

PS: just to clarify things, are you monozygotic or disygote twins and which of you was born first?

Ecliptique.

 

[CancerCancerScorpio]

Hello Ecliptique,

Thank you so much!! Yes, it helps, and makes sense.

I was born first..I think I’ve had better luck in life than my twin…I’m just a bit stronger, emotionally, I think.

Thank you for your insight!!

 

[Ecliptique]

Hello CancerCancerScorpio,

you probably came from the same egg (monozygotes).

It's interesting what you write about the emotional side. It seems that you are both engaged in wanting to be loved by wanting to impose it, with a fixed idea, based on your perception of the attention that others pay to you. You yourself appear stronger on the level mentioned, especially when it concerns something difficult to achieve. I can perhaps also add that you are a little more interested in astrology by being more recognized, by taking it more to heart and by being more valued...
Does all of this seem relevant to you?

Ecliptique.

 

[Frisiangal]

Hi again,
I have attached the natal chart for your birth time. Your twin's chart is, obviously, almost the same except the cusps of the house realms will move foward by approx. +1 degree (= 4 mins. of time). The grid beneath the chart gives the 6th house cusp on 14+* Aries for your birth time. For your twin it will move foward by the approx 1 degree, placing the True NN in in the 5th house conjunct 6th house cusp. This slight difference can make all the difference in one's 'life path' attitude. Do you find that this is so? E.g. you are aware of your health; your twin is aware of life's expression?
Saturn is beyond the max. orb allowed to be considered conjunct NN.

The autoimmune system you mention is strongly associated with Saturn and Neptune. It works adversely when the body begins 'attacking'(Mars influence) itself, experiencing its own inner forces as outer forces invading it (which the psyche may see as such!), against which it has no defence (Mars-Saturn). An aspect with Uranus can bring in the 'abnormality' , i.e. that which comes up against Saturn's autoctratic societal standards. There is no aspect between Mars-Saturn. Mars is ruler of the 6th house! Its courage and strength and assertive nature cannot fend off any kind of attacks. There is no immunity towards them. Saturn can weaken instead of strengthen its force. Mars in Cancer is strongly governed by feeling and forms a stellium in Cancer with the other personal planets, except Mercury! Feelings overule logic of thought? A reason for a NN in Aries ....to work towards personal strength (of character) with others (SN LIbra)?

As you can see, there is a YOD figure between Saturn-Uranus-Neptune. A second YOD figure is between Mercury-Saturn-Neptune, plus Mercury square Uranus. The latter aspect could be the key to your separate mental approaches to life. You say that you are the stronger of the two. Strength is a trait within Aries, and Saturn is in the sign. Are you able to face and tackle situations in another manner than your twin? You can stand your ground (6th house is an Earth = physical house) and envision alternate possibilities (Uranus-Neptune), whilst your twin 'stiffens' (from Neptune fear?), merely at the thought of burdens (to be) confronted, let alone carried.

Should your twin experience mental/emotional health issues, this could play its part in the 'stiff person' complaint. Urans is THE planet of alternate thought and expression. It can do much to alter Saturn's influence. A breakthrough that can often be found in the position of Chiron (orbit between Saturn and Uranus); the difference between living with inner pain of the past and healing one's self of it (Canxcer stellium square Chiron in 5th house?).

Hopefully you are different in that respect to your twin. (You do not say of which gender).