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Be advised: Adult discussion ahead. I hope it is not too explicit- I want to follow rules- but it is something very important to my chart and my identity, as I'll explain. Also, this post may be TL;DR- use the Find function for TL;DR to skip past my bio if it grows tedious :p

Hello everyone :) Venus here- at least, that's what some men call me. I'm looking for a little input on jobs, so I came here. I've been lurking on this forum for well over a year now and you seem to have some knowledgeable people here. I've been studying astrology for about five years now, off and on, in the constant expansion of my being... along with everything else I do in my occult and religiospiritual work. I'm very big on all that- I would have minored in something to do with religiospirituality at university if I'd had the time, but everything turned out for the best. I've learned a lot on my own, at any rate, especially after finally opening up to the possibilities of magic in my life. It's like one day, five years ago, I just let go and let it in, because I was so confused about what to do with my life. I still am! That's why I'm here, after all. The day I started studying, though, everything changed, almost instantly, and continued inexorably. I learned well of my destiny and true vocation- what I am here for now is help, more specifically, with monetary concerns. How is it that I am to earn money?

I read through your stickies, and they were very helpful. They have already helped me to shape a somewhat better idea, although there are people here who know so much more than I. I'm not very experienced with aspects, transits, or things like elements, for instance- your experience will lend much. And I thank you very much for any help you may offer. I've attached my chart, and of course now I will give you a little bit better idea about myself, what I've done in the past, and what I see in my chart myself. I will try not to be too long-winded, although I have pages of notes thanks to your stickies already. But of course I want to be thorough.

As mentioned, I am very religious and spiritual- Catholic, occult, new age, yogi, you name it. I appreciate rituals from many religions and have incorporated them into my life. I very much enjoy Hellenistic gods, for instance, which really helps in astrology! But besides this, my degree is in theatre and classics- Latin and Greek- and, well, I tried Hebrew and Sanskrit, but I just didn't have the time what with the other languages and shows. I know a bit. I've worked in theatre extensively and in many capacities. I mostly like to produce, write, and perform, and make use of all the other things I've learned therein- there are so many words for all the things that I do, both theatrical and spiritual, that I had no idea what to put on my business cards! I ended up using my own astrological symbol instead of a job title. It felt a little too pretentious to write, “Hollywood mogul”, being as that I am not exactly some illuminata controlling the silver screen (yet! Hah).

No, I'm just a starving artist. I've produced art and promoted it and performed in it, sure, but that hasn't made any money. I always break even. Or get paid in booze (praise Bacchus!). I have connections and influence, but no money- and I could do more with more money. I could produce more, advertise more, promote more, do more public relations. I want that.

I briefly studied under another Catholic occultist- a former OTO gal who is now a successful tarot reader to the rock stars and what-have-you. I once asked her how to make money (as I'm now asking you!) and she said, “You don't want to know that. You want to know your vocation.” She told me that I want to be a performer, and would be good at it, but that I will be a leader and “control the illusions of reality” through the theatre of Hollywood. Well, using that to save the world would be cool. That is what inspired me to start producing- sometimes you really do need the advice of a psychic to see what direction to take in life. It was there all along, but you just couldn't see it. I've also had several lucid dreams which have helped to shape my progress, with help from the various spirit guides in my life.

But, yes, meanwhile- I am also a starving artist. So like most other artists in this town, until I find that way to earn a living wage with my art, I have the McJobs. Even with a university degree these end up being barely enough to pay for rent and food, much less produce and invest in art (I've had help with money here and there from investors and friends, but nothing huge, and nothing steady). I appreciate what these jobs have taught me- hospitality, and how to be pleasant with perfectly horrible human beings. I learned what it was to literally serve celebrities and royalty and to be utterly impecunius, impoverished, myself. I learned what it is to serve all sorts in mankind- beautiful dying children, plastic Beverly Hills wives wearing bangles that cost more than my rent each, leering grandfathers, generous families, ungrateful brats, gawky teens, women in burqas toting little tomboys in light-up sneakers, people who yell to get their way, distracted and attentive fathers, locals and international tourists, rich and poor, sick and healthy, prejudiced and kind, religious and non. These jobs have taught me the value of service in every human life- how service is the glory of God. I think everyone should spend at least one year of their lives like that.

But I am sick and tired of making diddly. It's stressful and I am burnt out. This began to show at my latest job- a job where I was passed over for promotion four times- the last time they simply decided to delete the position- while I was given more and more duties that I would have had in said position, and my pay was not increased, but decreased due to the removal of tipping, and hours being cut. I was better at my job than my supervisors were- they would admit I knew more than them. Meanwhile, the company shows record profits, and is very impressive compared to other companies in this difficult time. Those a couple positions above me make hundreds of thousands a year. (But maybe it's good I didn't sell my soul and become one of them, I think.) I also became stressed out by the neighborhood I was living in neighboring Skid Row- constant domestic violence, and the unfortunately mentally imbalanced junkies begin to wear. I can hear them every day. I walk past what I consider unimaginable horror every day on the sidewalks- It's so much different from the pristine mansions of estranged family and distant friends, where there is a sidewalk on one side for people and a sidewalk for horses on the other. I'm not sure how the world let itself come to this. I took up drinking for a little while rather than continue on with my art. I stopped caring about showing up to my job on time.

So I'm fired ^__^ I am at once pleased and displeased. I am pleased I never have to return to that Hell again. I am displeased because I am still a starving artist in a very harsh universe. I feel like I know a lot about said universe and how it works- but that doesn't make it less harsh.

I don't really want to go back to another McJob to repeat the last five years of making ends meet. I will if I have to- I am prepared to, obviously, for survival. I am doing the usual steps of applying and agencies, though it makes me want to tear out my hair. And, living in government-assisted housing, they will want to see paychecks very shortly. But I want to transcend this. I want to have a job that helps me have enough money and time to create my ~own~ job. I tried working two or three jobs at once, double shifts and so on, but this was even more stressful, besides which, I don't have a car, and I've had enough unpleasant experiences taking public transit at night as a petite beautiful woman to want to avoid any jobs that go too late into the night hours. And they still didn't help me save money.

I had meant to write all this even before I was fired, but, now, well, here we are! So, TL;DR let us take a look at what my chart says!

I will attach a couple. One is simple and clean. Another I did just for fun, with lots of bodies- since I enjoy mythological figures so, I have included ten of some of those most significant to me, even though I know that they have such small astrological influence. I've included the name of a soulmate, James (2335), and also Chaos (19521), Dionysus (3671), Bacchus (2063), Ganymed (1036), Ishtar (7088), Urania (30), Magdalena (318), Cora (504), and Persephone (399).

This brings to mind that even the larger asteroids and fixed stars have much smaller influence, so, with that said- let's begin with my tenth house- my tenth house is Leo. This is creativity, and here would have to do with the world at large. The only bodies here are Regulus and Ceres. Now, here, this also brings to mind orbs- I heard that we shouldn't consider minor bodies like these unless they were conjoined at an orb of 1 degree. Regulus is conjoined with my MC at 1.33. Is that too distant? I read that MC conjoining with Regulus means dealing with famous people- which I already have, both in my McJobs and my vocation- and that it will raise one to a high station in life. I hope that this trend will expand and that it will indeed raise me up so that I can help influence the world.

Ceres, here, in 10th and Virgo, if she is important, means I nurture in business details, and that I am popular once I step into the spotlight, and people come to me for nurturing. Those in the biz do ask me about spiritual matters very occasionally, and look to my words for inspiration- and there was that one time some random stranger came up to me in a crowd and asked me to forgive him for his sins, but I think he was just hitting on me. At any rate I do try to help humanity when I perform my true calling, from discussing each tactic with my actors in the first read-through to the guests at parties after closing night.

Now as I think of my MC I think of another question besides small bodies and orbs- I have read many interpretations on many sites and in many books about the various placements of celestial bodies, but I have also been using CafeAstrology.com to look at the meaning of the exact degree. It kind of reminds me of Tarot- I've read so many sites and books on Tarot as well- and, while they often have a good deal in common to say about each card, each author has something different to say too, to the extent that I may see a card in an entirely new light. So I am not sure how seriously to take CafeAstrology's interpretations of each degree. After joining this site I learned about other ways to interpret degrees, and Sabian symbols too, so that helped, but I am still not sure what to think of it all, and still not sure exactly how to round off the degree to get the right symbol. With my MC at 28 degrees Leo, CafeAstrology tells me that I pursue noble goals, and will have a remarkably brilliant destiny full of altruistic glory, like “the angel of the sun” giving off sparks.

The ruler of my MC is the Sun, which is in Aries in my fifth house- just like in the example in your sticky, and I agree, “(1) The career has to be fun for the person and a source of creative expression. (2) The person may not be best suited to a career... 3) The person might be good at a 5th house type of career, such as … the theatre” I have also worked with children before in a few jobs, simply because I am naturally good at it, but I don't particularly fancy it, nor do I have any desire to have one. My only children are my artistic endeavors. And indeed without them life is meaningless. Incidentally, Eris is combust here, if that means anything.

Moving on to the 6th house of work and service: My North Node and Venus are here.

My North Node is right on the cusp- so this gives me even more questions, about whether to consider Mean or True! Mean it is 0 degrees Taurus. True is 29 Aries. Everything I read on sites and in books doesn't really clue me in- both the advantages and disadvantages seem right for me. I am doubly blessed and doubly cursed. I looked at degree descriptions here, too- some people stand hard by using one or the other, but mine are so different. If we use my mean degree, I get a positive interpretation that I can overcome. If I use a true degree, it spells misfortune, sorrow, and ruin- both with my Node and with Lilith!

Mean node interpretation: “Opponents are numerous and, although reluctant to wage war, they don't hesitate to fight back in case of aggression. It is through mental strength, philosophy, and diplomacy that the fiercest conflicts can be solved.”

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True node interpretation: “Self-centredness finally puts off family members, friends, and colleagues. Therefore, no external help is to be expected in days of misfortune and sorrow.”

It is the same with Lilith at her mean 4 degrees Gemini: “One readily forgives one's enemies and strives to alleviate deprived people's sufferings. Although one is not particularly interested in worldly gains, one easily attracts success, wealth, and honours owing to a vivid imagination and artistic gifts.”

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True Lilith at 27 Taurus: “Owing to limited intellectual abilities and to lack of competence, projects are doomed to fail. Furthermore, instead of acknowledging the kindness of protectors, one takes it for granted and believes that it is the just reward for one's worth. One must face the sad reality, understand that one lacks qualifications, and start to learn a job. Otherwise, one will remain a total laughing stock.”

I'm just mentioning this as something that I have pondered more than a few times... but in the end, those are just one interpretation each, and neither Lilith nor my Node are by any means the most dominant bodies in my chart.

HowEVER, according to Pullen, Venus is the most dominant planet in my chart, I suppose as she is in her ruling sign and well aspected. And I suppose this should have been obvious earlier in my life, considering. I might have devoted myself to other gods, but I emulate her. I am very connected to feelings and sensations, beauty and love, art, passion, sensuality. My love life is consuming. I am a pansexual and polyamorous woman, who occasionally acts as a man (I enjoy the expressions of both genders and do not recognize hard gender boundaries), and I take no pains to hide it or censor myself, and indeed I champion sexuality. Sex is one of, if not the, most sacred experiences a human can have, becoming one with another person(s), in this microcosm of the macrocosmic Universe who makes constant love to herself. Destigmatizing sex, sex outside of marriage, sex between people who are not opposite genders in (Maybe I should start to censor myself here? Trying to think what would be ok to say on network tv, hah.) in a certain... traditional... position... for the specific purpose of creating a baby and not employing... anything... pleasurable for the lady... even going outside that... one... position... (I mean come on realllllly?), is a cause of mine. It is one of the reasons I learned Greek, et al, in fact, so that I could better understand ancient texts regarding the matter.

Charm, femininity, art, my charisma- all of these have been important to my social identity. CafeAstrology describes Venus' placement at 5 degrees Taurus thus: “In a conference hall, a man at the height of his glory is standing on a podium with a scroll of paper in his hand and a laurel wreath on his head. Among the participants, there is a three-headed man who looks in different directions. Intelligent, shrewd, and fickle character. The three-headed man symbolises the host of talents and abilities one is blessed with. Sharp perspicacity, scientific knowledge, and artistic skills enable to overcome many an obstacle and to achieve success and fame.” Also, looking at the William Lilly sticky, I had to look up a lot of new terms that I'm not entirely sure I'm using correctly, but I am definitely, as he describes, “Venereal”. Hah.

My 6th house cusp is on Aries, which is ruled by Mars- who is in my 2nd house, Capricorn, so he will come into play with the 2nd house of individual resources as well. I am not sure what to read here- I do work hard- but like I said, I'm burnt out, despite the fortitude Mars lends me. Yet I firmly march toward a goal to conquer it. Another interpretation of this position says that despite the fact I am very intelligent I make bad decisions, and have risky asset management.

Other planets in my 2nd house of individual resources are Juno, Uranus, and Neptune. Juno here seems to symbolize eccentric mastery of occult mysteries. Uranus right here with Neptune seems so oddly placed- Uranus indicates risk as did Mars, that I am so willing to lay myself open to a total change of fortune, a complete risk of all I have- well, that's what I did when I moved to L.A. with only my suitcase and a carryon. That was a change of fortune. And now I'm in the middle of another. Neptune seems to be similarly dour, in that, while I am wrapped up in my passions, which is good, it is impossible to keep good fortune under my control. Please someone correct me if I am wrong; maybe I need to look up new interpretations ;)

My 2nd house is ruled by Jupiter, which is in one of his dignities, Pisces, in my 4th house, which has Aquarius on its cusp. He too is sensual, and here, points to my considering the world as my family- indeed I consider us all one tribe. And I do easily integrate into a variety of social structures. I try to understand people.

Onto the 8th- shared resources. An empty house, beginning with Gemini. Well, Pallas is there. Sirius is there but hardly important except personal curiousity, because of a vision someone had about a guardian spirit of mine from that area, which coincided with one of mine, and a guardian angel, and some mythological lore we looked up later- but then, “Visions are seldom what they seem”. ;) Once again, CafeAstrology says something about Pallas like “international affairs aiming at collective good”.

As for anything else that might be found in my 8th house, Gemini is ruled by Mercury, which is in his detriment in Pisces, in my 4th house whose cusp is Aquarius- he's hanging out here with Jupiter, whom I mentioned before, and also the moon. I am not sure what to say here other than that I do my best, most honest communicating once I am close to people. Before that I suppose I am rather standoffish or introverted- I try to be “normal” before telling people my true thoughts, which invariably leads to my being bored and banal. But with those around whom I am comfortable- most people in theatre, though not always- I am an extroverted and opinionated woman. Don't get me wrong, I can still be extroverted and charming with strangers if I try. It's just like putting on any other mask. But I really don't care to discuss the topics most do. I'll be all smiles while serving someone, then, when left to my own devices on a break, I ignore everyone around me, reading something rather than discuss the latest reality television scandal, homogenous blockbuster, sports game, or for God's sake the weather. Like I said, at the theatre, I usually say anything I want- but let me give you an example of when I wouldn't: Recently, at one of those after-parties with a celebrity or so, I was trying to discuss the pertinence of the words “cult” and “belief” as being highly misused in today's society- one of my lovers tried to get me to cease such activity and took my drink away. I suppose because not everyone wants to hear that cult simply means “a religion with ritual practices”- he didn't want anyone in that crowd to overhear me even using such words. So maybe those are the sorts of things I might normally not discuss with a stranger upon first meeting, but rather, wait until we're discussing etymology upon at least a second reading of a script, or some such. This lover says that I have, in such instances, a tendency to be a little too “corrective” - I have definitely had a few successes as a critic. But again, no money there! (Yet.)

I suppose I will also mention my Part of Fortune, if that is pertinent, at 11 degrees Sagittarius in my 1st House, whose cusp, my rising sign, is Scorpio- now, CafeAstrology REALLY doesn't have anything flattering to say here: "A woman lying on a sofa stretches her hands towards a casket full of jewellery. Outside, a man is trampled by a billy goat. Greedy and sensual character. One indulges in depravation and is willing to sacrifice everything to meet one's materialistic and sexual needs. There is a strong probability of ruin. In the chart of males, there may be premature senility or impotence. In the chart of females, sex and flattery are used in order to misappropriate other people's wealth.” Well! That sounds a bit off to me. Of course, if you've been reading along, you know how much I champion the cause of sex. I don't, however, champion swindling people out of their money. I have worked as a sex worker and a model before- I have definitely used sex appeal and flattery to obtain money. But I hardly call it misappropriation. But moving on from that odd interpretation- other sites tell me that this placement indicates I feel it is important that I am educated to place myself up higher and overcome judgments, and that it has to do with developing myself- knowing myself and all, overcoming the ego and such. Getting fortune at the expense of others will come if I am insecure. Well, so long as I don't become envious and try to “take” what other people have, then.

So, this brings me to what I might do to earn money. Like I said I'll sign up for another McJob if I have to, but it is not fulfilling. I have been considering going back into sex work, but not in the same way that I did years ago. Mind you, this is all legal, decent sex trade. Although I'm really not sure why prostitution itself is illegal in most places in the U.S., that's not what I'm talking about here. Nor performing in pornography- that seems a little too rigorous for me. Nor stripping; too many drunk touchy-feelies- though if it weren't for that I think I'd have a pretty good time dancing in pretty underthings. I have a dominatrix friend who has inspired me- that could be fun, but I am not sure I could dominate people full-time, as I am more of a switch. I have the occasional show in a dungeon, but that's just for fun- I'm not as experienced, yet. Nor am I as experienced in hypnotism, but like astrology it's something I've been studying here and there- maybe someday I could do erotic hypnotism/therapy. But I need money now, and I want to start something now, not after I gain accreditation. Maybe phone sex, editing pornography articles, or a couple other ideas I've had- you see, like I said, sex is so fun for me, and so important, and it's one of the things I practice most often. Whenever I did my homework at university, I was almost constantly chatting in the background in such ways that would often lead to cyber-sex- so since that is one of the things I most enjoy, I have definitely been considering doing it for a living. And honestly, to preemptively dispel certain misguided notions if anyone has them because they are unfamiliar with irl sex workers, I felt more degraded working in every corporate environment I've experienced. It wasn't service that bothered me- like I said service is the glory of God and I actually enjoy serving others- it was the corporate environment. I felt far more taken advantage of. I felt my soul being constantly sucked away. My time is worth more than that. This can provide a better foundation for my future and my art. Hell, this is something that can move me away from Skid Row and make me more comfortable, for starters. This is something I've been thinking about returning to for a long time- my higher self seems to be in accordance with this, according to my lucid dream travels. S/he also wants me to return to modeling and acting. So okay, I'll have to lose a couple dress sizes again to get back down to very XS before doing any more lingerie shoots or promo work, but that'll take a few months of sober vegan active lifestyle, and I'll still need lots of cash for proper transportation, so meanwhile....

TL;DR AGAIN---

So, what do you, new friends, see here for sex work; for art- theatre, writing, production, performing, etc.; for spiritual work- Tarot, hypnosis, etc.; and for anything else, regarding cash flow? I am so very curious!
 

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Hi

I haven't got the concentration to read through everything you wrote. But do have interest to know what you want to ask.

I noticed you said you used to work as sex worker.

2nd house Sagittarius, Jupiter in 4th, suggesting income obtained at home or home like setting.

Ruler of the ascendant Scorpio Pluto Retrograde in 12th house with south node. 12th house ruler in 6th house Venus in Taurus with north node. Pluto opposition Venus in Taurus both very sensual signs and planets. These two planets are the holding force of your bowl pattern.

Pluto sextile Mars in 2nd house. Ruler of the ascendant, the physical body in the house of behind the scene, secretive house, sextile Mars the sexual planet, in the 2nd house. Both Mars and Pluto rules over sex, sexual organs, sexual activity, power.

Mars, Pluto Rx, and Jupiter formed a Minor Grand Trine, Talent triangle.
Behind the scene, money, home, talent, physical body.

Mars trine Venus, two sexual planets, Mars in 2nd house trine 6th house Venus (12th house ruler). Mars is the ruler of 6th house your health, work, services is related to Mars, Exalted. Tight conjunction of Mars Neptune conjunction, power of sexual seduction, confusions, deceptions, in the house of income and talent, the house of resources. Venus the ruler of worldly, physical pleasure in the 6th house.

Venus, Jupiter, Mars/Neptune again formed another Minor Grand Trine, talent triangle.

Part of fortune in 1st house, the house of physical body, opposition to the Chiron in the house of partnership/client, with Lilith in there, sign of Gemini, mutable signs, many changes. Part of fortune conjunction with Saturn, luck from the authority, older age people, Saturn is the ruler of the 3rd house, nearby community also.

Sun exalted in Aries being in the house of 5th his natural home, sex, fun, entertainment, Sun is the ruler of the 10th, house of career. Your ruler of career is in the creativity and entertainment house. That could be art but since the 6th house suggested more of the sexual matter. Fixed star Regulus is even tightly conjunct with MC, that is a royal star, high class/paid sex worker?

Jupiter sextile both Mars and Neptune, Jupiter is the ruler of Expansion. So Jupiter makes the effect of Mars Neptune conjunction a lot stronger, being the ruler of 2nd house, Money.

Jupiter sextile Mars/Neptune is the both holding force of your bowl pattern
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Juptier trine Pluto, Mars/Neptune trine Venus these crosses line again hold all these planetary energy together within a very secured Bowl pattern.

Jupiter rules Saturn, Saturn rules both Mars and Neptune, in a traditional sign Capricorn, but Saturn is Retrograde here, Saturn in Sagittarius not doing it usual Restriction works either...Juptier and Saturn square either, they are both struggle to come to term but Jupiter won here I would say.

Sun trine Uranus Rx, 5th and 2nd house, Uranus square Moon however, Perhaps this square is part of the reason? Moon rules 9th house, a very unique, unconventional ideal, religious belief and philosophy of life.

It will be interesting to see when your natal progressed Pluto turns Direct.

Thank you for sharing your information and personal details.
 
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I haven't got the concentration to read through everything you wrote. But do have interest to know what you want to ask.

It is indeed a lot to slog through! I don't blame you. I just wanted to be thorough and provide an idea of who I am. Basically I am asking: What is the best way for me to make enough money to move ahead in life? To be able to afford a decent apartment and fund my art. I have had a wide variety of jobs. Indeed sex work and creativity draw me the most. Nothing else seems to be working. Either I can't possibly viably get it off the ground, or it would rely on the luck of the draw, which I can't rely on.

I was wondering if sex work did indeed show up in my chart, which you seem to emphasize in ways I never noticed- thank you for all your notes on aspects!


Your ruler of career is in the creativity and entertainment house. That could be art but since the 6th house suggested more of the sexual matter. Fixed star Regulus is even tightly conjunct with MC, that is a royal star, high class/paid sex worker?

I've considered doing something like Madonna did- I definitely know enough producers/execs who would be interested. The old Greco-Roman model of patronage- friends and lovers having an adventure together with mutual interests in shared business and product.

Juptier and Saturn square either, they are both struggle to come to term but Jupiter won here I would say.

Well hooray! ...I think. Jupiter has always been more beneficial. Saturn's cool but he's spanked me enough. Uh. And plans to again soon with my return. Jupiter is nice but maybe doesn't want to admit that I am like one of his moons ;)

It will be interesting to see when your natal progressed Pluto turns Direct.

Trying to figure that out but haven't quite yet... is there a table I can look at? I have to head out now; I will be back later today.

Thanks so much for your help!
 
By all means, you still have all the essential ingredients to be involved in the modelling industry. You must be a very attractive, sexually magnetic woman with all astrological combinations I could see in your chart.

The major issues here is the Pluto your ascendant ruler being in 12th house which means you will always be behind the scene kind of person or remind very secretive as the minimal. Since you already had worked as a sex worker. I am logically concerned if you do move more toward the public side of life, you will need to be prepared as if you got famous (with your Regulus fixed star at MC very possible) you will need to face the negative comments if anyone trying to dig out your past.

Also all your planets excepeting the hidden Pluto above the horizon, meaning you are very private and rather self efficient for your emotional needs, not even often that you go out to the public side of life. Do you think you will truly enjoy being looked at by massive amount of people? Just because of being pretty and attractive. Would you be satisfied being a sexual image for life?

I know what you having in your heart is your Sun in 5th house, your art work and creativity. Venus trine Neptune is highly talented for art as well. IT IS STILL POSSIBLE for you to achieve greatly in art. The north node in 6th house, the house of daily activity, of course daily life you have massive creativity coming from Venus, Mars, Neptune trine, Uranus trine Sun also representing Sudden enlightenment in creative affair. Even your 11th house is in Libra, is another artistic house of Friends. I do believe you are great at both being a professional sex worker or artist.

The question here is:
Do you want to go through the hardship of life to achieve your artistic goal first or to submit yourself into a comforting easy life when your youth allows you?

Without any astrology, you can't be a well paid sex worker till your 50s 60s, 70s even if you maintaining your appearance exceptionally well. You have to work on your other talent which is Art!
 
I am logically concerned if you do move more toward the public side of life, you will need to be prepared as if you got famous (with your Regulus fixed star at MC very possible) you will need to face the negative comments if anyone trying to dig out your past.

Yes, that's something everyone who ends up with fame would have to think about- but not everyone does. I have indeed perhaps even purposely kept myself more behind the scenes, with various aliases in every sphere of my life, from where I publish reviews, to where I publish spiritual articles, to what name I give people when I meet them, to what name I've used in the small amount of modeling work that I have done. When I was a child I thought it would be cool to be famous, but as an adult, I'm glad I got the chance to think about what kind of identity I want to project to the world. I really rather purposely enjoyed posting spiritual articles as egolessly as possible, and seeing how people reacted to a blank slate, but if I'm a superhero with a secret identity- perhaps the time has come to remove my Clark Kent glasses. Now that I know more who I am, I could get more done that way.

Still, it's something that happens to everyone who gains any degree of notoriety- people are going to dig up your past, and some people are going to paint you with the color of that brush, and box you in, and perhaps think that's all you are, and think negatively of you if they judge that color and that box to be bad. But famous people still move on with their careers, because not everyone is so silly as all that with their labels, and besides, we must all overcome our egos. I don't need to worry about people judging me negatively. Sure, I want everyone to know that I am a good person who means well. But no matter what, someone is going to dislike me.

Would you be satisfied being a sexual image for life?

Like Marilyn Monroe? Heh. Well, I am more than just that, and so was she, but I suppose I wouldn't mind. Sex is a good thing.

The question here is:
Do you want to go through the hardship of life to achieve your artistic goal first or to submit yourself into a comforting easy life when your youth allows you?

Without any astrology, you can't be a well paid sex worker till your 50s 60s, 70s even if you maintaining your appearance exceptionally well. You have to work on your other talent which is Art!

Yeah, I think it's going to have to be both... money comes from sexual appeal in the beginning and not from art. Money doesn't come from sex work later, but then would be possible to come from art, now that I have attention and the money to make money.

Also, I found out that Pluto went direct for the first time after I was born on July 15, 1986. 1:37 A.M. my time. What does that mean? I've attached a chart if you'd like one... not sure what to click on a drop-down to combine that chart with my natal; I haven't done that sort of thing yet.
 

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Yes, that's something everyone who ends up with fame would have to think about- but not everyone does. I have indeed perhaps even purposely kept myself more behind the scenes, with various aliases in every sphere of my life, from where I publish reviews, to where I publish spiritual articles, to what name I give people when I meet them, to what name I've used in the small amount of modeling work that I have done. When I was a child I thought it would be cool to be famous, but as an adult, I'm glad I got the chance to think about what kind of identity I want to project to the world. I really rather purposely enjoyed posting spiritual articles as egolessly as possible, and seeing how people reacted to a blank slate, but if I'm a superhero with a secret identity- perhaps the time has come to remove my Clark Kent glasses. Now that I know more who I am, I could get more done that way.

Still, it's something that happens to everyone who gains any degree of notoriety- people are going to dig up your past, and some people are going to paint you with the color of that brush, and box you in, and perhaps think that's all you are, and think negatively of you if they judge that color and that box to be bad. But famous people still move on with their careers, because not everyone is so silly as all that with their labels, and besides, we must all overcome our egos. I don't need to worry about people judging me negatively. Sure, I want everyone to know that I am a good person who means well. But no matter what, someone is going to dislike me.



Like Marilyn Monroe? Heh. Well, I am more than just that, and so was she, but I suppose I wouldn't mind. Sex is a good thing.



Yeah, I think it's going to have to be both... money comes from sexual appeal in the beginning and not from art. Money doesn't come from sex work later, but then would be possible to come from art, now that I have attention and the money to make money.

Also, I found out that Pluto went direct for the first time after I was born on July 15, 1986. 1:37 A.M. my time. What does that mean? I've attached a chart if you'd like one... not sure what to click on a drop-down to combine that chart with my natal; I haven't done that sort of thing yet.

Whichever way you choose, I think you will be able to do very well. It is you own choice and only yourself know what you truly needs and be happy about. I am glad you did think about those practical questions so my job is done here for you. One that I have in my mind as my understanding and believe in incarnations. The one and only way a person, a soul can truly understand life in all aspects will be to actually lived the life of every role. From the begger to the king one must complete the cycle of being to see through the views and experienced all it in flesh. This is my theory of incarnation and soul completion. It is as contradiction as it might sound but I think that is the only way for each of us to gain true understanding.

For Pluto, I have a look and do some research later on to see ruler in 12th house moved out of 12th what would it manifest in your chart. But clearly you are very secretive in reality as well.

I like Marilyn Mornone she was a really beautiful woman.
 
One that I have in my mind as my understanding and believe in incarnations. The one and only way a person, a soul can truly understand life in all aspects will be to actually lived the life of every role. From the begger to the king one must complete the cycle of being to see through the views and experienced all it in flesh. This is my theory of incarnation and soul completion. It is as contradiction as it might sound but I think that is the only way for each of us to gain true understanding.

That is a good theory. We do need to experience all these things to grow. That reminds me. When I was in kindergarten they had this school project to make a model of the occupation you wanted to have when you grew up. I came home to discuss it with my mother and said, "I want to be everything!" Then sober reality set in... but she said, "It sounds like you want to be an actress." So at the advice of my mother, I put a dress on my model and a golden statue in her hand. Of course now I know acting is about more than dresses and statues!
 
I have a look of some online source, this one pretty good quality.

http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/retrogrades-in-the-natal-horoscope

"Pluto is more intense when Retrograde and this intensity is highly psychological which can make them more suspicious of others because they pick up more at that psychological level.
Pluto D is more interested in external power— a great job, lots of money
Pluto R is definitely more psychological— investigation, healing, transformational
They register the unseen very quickly, they see the negative side more easily but they need to cut this off because it will isolate them from life and people.
These people have much greater insights into the subconscious. This makes them more loners and introverted. They may have trouble relaxing around many people due to the psychological process and registering so much information.
Powers of regeneration and rejuvenation are incredible in its House position."

"Pluto in the 12th is extremely intense to the point of being strongly disposed for research, investigations and their greatest asset is the ability to help other people help themselves. They have probing insight that psychologically analyzes. They can quickly pick out another’s strengths and weaknesses so that they are able to help people help themselves. Like Pluto D, this is a highly protective position in life-threatening situations."

As I previously mentioned, you would prefer a lot more private life. But it is only you known what you truly want in life. And after all, is just all process of understanding ourselves from all the experiences in life. Enjoying the journey is more important and learning meaningful lessons for soul revolution is a lot more important than being right or wrong, being important or ordinary. We learn all these lessons from all aspects, often on the way to achieve our dreams can learn a lot of our strengths and weaknesses. Being model, sex worker, artist, or anything you wanted. The key to me is what you get out of the experiences. All role is relevant for each of us to reach the completion of the soul.
 
If you believe in Karma and past lives, you will be benefited from understanding your South node in 12th house in Scorpio. South node is something you had already mastered in the past life and this life encourage you to move forward to your North node to complete the lessons of this life for your higher self. So you should also consider Pluto Retrograde as something you had already done 12th house, Scorpio rules matters. And this life is to achieve Venus in Taurus, very material sign of Venus of course and in 6th house, services, work, health etc. Venus also in her own sign, so you can solely look at Venus and it's aspect.

Midpoint is another tool to explore your deeper self other than Fixed Stars. Since you haven't put your birth data here. So you would need to look into the declination of your planets, axises and fixed stars to see if anymore areas should be understood. Then you can also explore Harmonic/Vedic Divisional charts to understand each house and D60 is the chart for past live study. Minor aspects are also very revealing. There are plenty of these areas being asked and just use the search agent to search and go to each individual forum. Astrology is the Excellent tool for self exploration and it really make sense of many daily matters and purpose in life.

The opposition between Venus, Pluto and Node axis well truly is asking you to pay attention to these two houses, planets and signs. You can also cast your chart with Vertex, also very revealing.
 
I guess I never considered just how important my Pluto is before. It is true that I enjoy keeping most of myself hidden. And I respect famous people who are very private. On the other hand, I feel like I can do more good in the world with more attention. That's why people always try to get really famous celebrities on their side for causes. I want to further lots of causes. So if I have to give up some privacy I will. I'll even bare my soul in my art. But somehow I think that some part of me will always be private.

If you believe in Karma and past lives, you will be benefited from understanding your South node in 12th house in Scorpio. South node is something you had already mastered in the past life and this life encourage you to move forward to your North node to complete the lessons of this life for your higher self.

I do believe in it, although I am not entirely sure how it works. I have had a few past life experiences. Sometimes I wonder if I really lived that life or if that life I experience, like reliving/replaying of a tape of a memory, is just a memory loaned to me by that soul. Maybe he thinks I need them for my growth. It's difficult to tell since the present moment is all there is now. Sometimes in my dreams when I look in the mirror I see his face. Once in a dream I was asked to give my name, a name assigned to me in the dream, and he whispered to me in my head to use his instead, and so break away from what authority had ordered. Does that mean I was him, or am like him inside of me, and should utilize the gifts these visions teach me, I wonder?

Like I said I am confused about my Nodes, though. It's right on the cusp and can be interpreted a degree into either sign. I have usually used the mean nodes as in my chart here because they seem more positive, but I could be wrong.

Since you haven't put your birth data here.

Gee, I am not secretive at all! ;) But, wow, you have a lot of advice, thank you. You have been SUCH a help. I will have to look into all those terms, too. I've heard them before, I've just never figured out how to use them. I will definitely search the forums over time... this could be a long project. That's okay though. My past life journal gets filled up really, really slowly.

Oh and as for fixed stars, I do know that Antares is almost exactly conjoined with Saturn- Saturn is 9.24 Sag and Antares is 9.34. Aldebaran of course on the opposite side with Chiron, a little more than a degree away from him. Besides Regulus, the others are all lonely, and I am not sure what their aspects are. I am reading things about Antares being an "evil" star, oh my.
 
I guess I never considered just how important my Pluto is before. It is true that I enjoy keeping most of myself hidden. And I respect famous people who are very private. On the other hand, I feel like I can do more good in the world with more attention. That's why people always try to get really famous celebrities on their side for causes. I want to further lots of causes. So if I have to give up some privacy I will. I'll even bare my soul in my art. But somehow I think that some part of me will always be private.

I do believe in it, although I am not entirely sure how it works. I have had a few past life experiences. Sometimes I wonder if I really lived that life or if that life I experience, like reliving/replaying of a tape of a memory, is just a memory loaned to me by that soul. Maybe he thinks I need them for my growth. It's difficult to tell since the present moment is all there is now. Sometimes in my dreams when I look in the mirror I see his face. Once in a dream I was asked to give my name, a name assigned to me in the dream, and he whispered to me in my head to use his instead, and so break away from what authority had ordered. Does that mean I was him, or am like him inside of me, and should utilize the gifts these visions teach me, I wonder?

Like I said I am confused about my Nodes, though. It's right on the cusp and can be interpreted a degree into either sign. I have usually used the mean nodes as in my chart here because they seem more positive, but I could be wrong.

Gee, I am not secretive at all! ;) But, wow, you have a lot of advice, thank you. You have been SUCH a help. I will have to look into all those terms, too. I've heard them before, I've just never figured out how to use them. I will definitely search the forums over time... this could be a long project. That's okay though. My past life journal gets filled up really, really slowly.

Oh and as for fixed stars, I do know that Antares is almost exactly conjoined with Saturn- Saturn is 9.24 Sag and Antares is 9.34. Aldebaran of course on the opposite side with Chiron, a little more than a degree away from him. Besides Regulus, the others are all lonely, and I am not sure what their aspects are. I am reading things about Antares being an "evil" star, oh my.


You Pluto is the first to look at as for you ascendant, to understand yourself the first image, then the MC, IC, DC would be your other images of self. Should always pay extra attention of Retrogrades.

I had those psychic experiences in dreams and in reality previous before also. I believed it was my aborted sibling. I also had heard voice once to stop me from killing myself. Literally stopped me from it. That was some really horrific time. Pluto was transiting my at IC conjuncted with Uranus, south node, anti vertex and Jupiter in Sagittarius. I am Scorpio Pluto, Saturn, Sun, Mercury so Pluto has always be my sensitive transit. Pluto transit from 0 degree 11' Scorpio through all my natal planets since birth in conjunctions or squares. In the solar return for those 2 years, Neptune was at exact conjunction at MC and DC of my solar return charts. 4th house Neptune in natal square both my 1st house Venus and Mars. While Pluto is the ruler of my Scorpio planets and 3rd house.

When Pluto transit at those angular axis/houses, node axis, you will sense the powerful Pluto the most.

For Mean node and true node, there are many debates. The only thing that I concern more though, True node shows the direction of the node. Moon node is normally retrograde, but I was born it was turned direct on the day. Still learning about what it means. But otherwise, if you don't have direct True node, mean node shouldn't be any problem in term of interpretation.

For Fixed Stars, traditionally it only significant when in conjunctions, oppositions to your natal planets/axis/nodes, or in declinations or by paran. You can get a free Fixed Star by Paran with the link I posted in this thread. I do have interest on exploring rather it also provide more information when planets making major aspect to it other than just conjunction/opposition.

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67376

I love to be resourceful that could be the Pluto being in 2nd house.
 
I've been offline a couple days- but I just got my parans report. Very interesting stuff! Thanks for the link. The gist of it-

Networker, abundantly creative. I am dedicated to research (including that of magic/otherside/prophecy), and seek to be therapeutic with humor (which is exactly why I always praise Dionysus and the theatrical aspects of religion!). Another star says I will also use knowledge and optimism to do the same. I have a rigid, piercing focus on my morals and my mission. I make alternative lifestyle choices. I gather information, things, and people; a leader in arts or humanistic politics. In my later years I'll make a monument or something lasting to a loved one....
 
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