please confirm the astrologer's analysis

[Frisiangal]

As only an horary technique observer myself, HOW is it possible that the astrologer concerned does not know, or is not aware of the simple fact of how and where current daily planetary transits are aligned?
Surely there should have been bells clanging as loud as England's Big Ben that it wasn't an horary chart that was being consulted and interpretted.

I hope that Ahmed informs her of such a mistake. As a representative of the craft, it taints the good name that astrology still strives to achieve.

[ Interesting that Ahmed queried the horary content. He must have felt that the written interpretation didn't acknowledge the situations for his question.]

 

[ElenaJ]

Surely there should have been bells clanging as loud as England's Big Ben that it wasn't an horary chart that was being consulted and interpretted.

A bit confusing, but it seems that the OP gave the astrologer both data, the horary and the natal.

 

[FraterAC]

Many astrologers tend to put more trust in forecasting techniques (progressions, etc) than horary (not to denigrate horary practice, with all due respect).
Without going into detail, if the area of life this hoped-for communication referred to were provided, it might be possible to make a judgment using the nativity and such techniques.
There could be a communication 11/20.

 

[ahmed1987]

Many astrologers tend to put more trust in forecasting techniques (progressions, etc) than horary (not to denigrate horary practice, with all due respect).
Without going into detail, if the area of life this hoped-for communication referred to were provided, it might be possible to make a judgment using the nativity and such techniques.
There could be a communication 11/20.

are you serious ? please tell me how did you conclude that ?

 

[ahmed1987]

A bit confusing, but it seems that the OP gave the astrologer both data, the horary and the natal.

the service was to answer 1 question using horary , she asked for my name location and date of birth (the date of birth should have been a clue that she doesn't know what horary is)

 

[FraterAC]

are you serious ? please tell me how did you conclude that ?

Just a quick look at quotidian progression of the angles, aspecting natal Mercury.
There would need to be other confirming indications too though.
It would help to know what the communication is in regard to. But do not get me wrong, I'm not fishing (phishing?) for information.
Just saying.

 

[ahmed1987]

Just a quick look at quotidian progression of the angles, aspecting natal Mercury.
There would need to be other confirming indications too though.
It would help to know what the communication is in regard to. But do not get me wrong, I'm not fishing (phishing?) for information.
Just saying.

oh please fish all you want its fine , well basically we both have feelings for each others but there's no contact between us currently , honestly i don't care even if he just said hi how are you and that is it, i want to know when is he going to reach out

 

[ahmed1987]

I made a horary chart yesterday with the same question: when will he reach out to me?

I'm no expert (obviously, I couldn't tell the difference between a horary chart and a birth chart), but from what I know, this chart confirms what FraterAC said: my person will reach out on 11/20.

Can anyone be so kind as to confirm if this is right or wrong?

 

[ElenaJ]

I made a horary chart yesterday

The chart is for Nov 14th, correct?

Timing is not easy, there are so many factors to consider.

Mercury and jupiter rule the 3rd and 9th houses of communications, as well as the 11th and 5th of friendship.
They complete an opposition in roughly 4 units of time.
If they are days, then about Nov 18th.

moon of the question at the midheaven will sextile saturn (7th ruler) in about 5 units of time.
If these are days, then it is about Nov 19th.

So, these are fairly close to the timing FraterAC saw in the other chart.

There is a clinker here, though.
You are the ascendent, sun, approaching an opposition to uranus, co-ruler of the 7th.
You might unexpectedly decide to break up.
With moon square the ascendent/descendent, there seems to be an emotional incomprehension going on.

 

[ahmed1987]

The chart is for Nov 14th, correct?

Timing is not easy, there are so many factors to consider.

Mercury and jupiter rule the 3rd and 9th houses of communications, as well as the 11th and 5th of friendship.
They complete an opposition in roughly 4 units of time.
If they are days, then about Nov 18th.

moon of the question at the midheaven will sextile saturn (7th ruler) in about 5 units of time.
If these are days, then it is about Nov 19th.

So, these are fairly close to the timing FraterAC saw in the other chart.

There is a clinker here, though.
You are the ascendent, sun, approaching an opposition to uranus, co-ruler of the 7th.
You might unexpectedly decide to break up.
With moon square the ascendent/descendent, there seems to be an emotional incomprehension going on.

Yes, it's for November 14th. I understand that determining an exact time is difficult, but as long as it's within the timeframe of the 18th-20th, it's fine. I appreciate your help

 

[ahmed1987]

You are the ascendent, sun, approaching an opposition to uranus, co-ruler of the 7th.
You might unexpectedly decide to break up.

Why would that mean we might break up? The chart was cast for a specific question (When will he reach out to me?), so the explanation could be something like, if he reaches out, it might not be smooth, and there could be tensions or challenges.

 

[ElenaJ]

it might not be smooth, and there could be tensions or challenges.

Uranus does not normally bring tension or challenges.
It is separation and abrupt unexpected turn of events.

So, this could be one outcome of your being in contact again.

 

[ahmed1987]

Uranus does not normally bring tension or challenges.
It is separation and abrupt unexpected turn of events.

So, this could be one outcome of your being in contact again.

I did some research and found that it means many things (tension, challenges, separation, unpredictability, surprise, dramatic change, breakthrough, etc.). I didn’t find anything saying it’s just about separation and abrupt unexpected turns of events. I’d love to see your sources, but of course, you’re not obligated to share them. I still don’t understand how you concluded that we might break up without any context, especially when context is everything in interpreting horary, and the question was just about the timing of reaching out

 

[ElenaJ]

And what is your interpretation of the approaching sun/uranus opposition, involving the significators of the 1st and 7th houses?

 

[FraterAC]

Uranus usually brings sudden and unexpected circumstances. In relationships, it often signifies divorces and breakups.
I'm inclined to agree with Elena here.

 

[ahmed1987]

And what is your interpretation of the approaching sun/uranus opposition, involving the significators of the 1st and 7th houses?

well since the chart was cast for a specific question then it must be related to that question , so it could be something like ( i will receive the contact at an unusual or unexpected time,the outreach may feel disruptive,he contacts me in an unexpected way, like through a mutual friend,the content of their message may be unexpected, unconventional, or even shocking,They confess something they had previously kept hidden,Their message is abrupt and lacks context or explanation.They reach out with a completely unrelated topic as an excuse to talk.They unexpectedly show up at my home or workplace,They initiate contact but don’t follow up consistently,Their tone is intense, suggesting urgency or emotional conflict,They approach cautiously, as if testing the waters, etc......... ) it could be so many things

 

[ahmed1987]

Uranus usually brings sudden and unexpected circumstances. In relationships, it often signifies divorces and breakups.
I'm inclined to agree with Elena here.

we're not in a relationship , we're never in a relationship

 

[ElenaJ]

we're not in a relationship , we're never in a relationship

Can you define who is the person you are asking about?
That's needed to identify the house that would represent them.
We've been assuming it is a romantic contact, but maybe we are wrong.

 

[ElenaJ]

well since the chart was cast for a specific question then it must be related to that question , so it could be something like ( i will receive the contact at an unusual or unexpected time,the outreach may feel disruptive,he contacts me in an unexpected way, like through a mutual friend,the content of their message may be unexpected, unconventional, or even shocking,They confess something they had previously kept hidden,Their message is abrupt and lacks context or explanation.They reach out with a completely unrelated topic as an excuse to talk.They unexpectedly show up at my home or workplace,They initiate contact but don’t follow up consistently,Their tone is intense, suggesting urgency or emotional conflict,They approach cautiously, as if testing the waters, etc......... ) it could be so many things

Any of these could be appropriate, but it depends on the houses involved and their significators.

 

[ahmed1987]

Can you define who is the person you are asking about?
That's needed to identify the house that would represent them.
We've been assuming it is a romantic contact, but maybe we are wrong.

it is but we're not in a relationship yet , for now we're each others person of interest