puzzling issue over south node's ruler

[draconic]

my SN is libra in 11th, conj, jupiter uranus and pluto is a few degrees apart.RX venus in in aries.
NN is conj sun and chiron.
venus in right in desc.conj saturn.
venus is also squared by moon and quincunx with pluto.
mars could be an ally,being in sagittarius 9th and trine sun.

trying to unpack the whole thing, I'm under the impression that venus must be a key for evolution from the past patterns,but I'm a bit puzzled.
its evolutionary function can't be that of SN,so it has to be transformed.
I feel like I have to sort out a brand new venus function, with so few clues.
I completely fit in Jeffrey Green description of rx aries venus and its karmic purpose, but then the traumatic signature on SN comes forward and it all gets complicated.libra venus is something I know already well and pulls me backwards.
could it be the taurus venus then(a self evaluation independent from enmeshment with others,quite challenging being cancer moon and libra rising)?
thanks for help in cracking the code!

 

[Madammaha]

Hi draconic, it is never a good thing to judge an issue without seeing the whole chart, so if you are interested in getting different answers post a chart.

 

[draconic]

right.I forgot to mention I'd already posted it in introducing myself.here is it again.

 

[Madammaha]

I know that you are focusing on the Cardinality of your Sun Moon Venus and Saturn, lets keep them aside and shift our focus to your second, fifth, 6th, where most of your planetary oppositions and trines are taking place. With Saturn on the Desc., while Uranus conj.S.N. in the 11th, both are rulers of your I.C. Before I continue, I'm not sure how much into Astrology you are, so tell me if what I mentioned is making some sense to you.

 

[draconic]

I'm not that comfortable with house shifting but I'm following,it's very interesting.please do go on
thank you

 

[Madammaha]

As Venus is ruler of the 12th and Asc. you are the one responsible of your self undoing, your self doing and self expression, the opposition of Venus conj. Saturn on the Desc. to the Asc. shows that there is a need for you and others to put forward certain issues for you to resolve, you have to understand to take action.
Now if we look at the I.C. Uranus its' ruler is conj. to Jupiter and Pluto, in the 11th that is ruled by Merc. and in opp. to it. The need here is to keep Merc. dignified, even if the conj. is at 0 degrees Libra, but the 11th House rules here and the S.N. placement is necessary to keep Uranus from moving to the 12th, along with it the rest of the conj./ opp. planets.
Now Merc. here could be simply your mind and logic as a starting point, it also could be magnified in influence from that point up to a queen tending to her people.

 

[Phoenix Venus]

Here is the sabian symbol (in part, taken from Dane Rudhyars "An Astrological Mandala") for your venus:

"A MAN POSSESSED OF MORE GIFTS THAN HE CAN HOLD. Obsession by potentiality. It is a symbol of WARNING —a warning against undertaking more than it is as yet sound to attempt."

Also, i would like to point out that your nn is on the cardinal point and therefore very powerful. these are spiritual symbols not necessarily exclusively relational. (Yeshuas asc-desc line was here) you also have jupiter exactly conjunct the sn which again denotes the spiritual implications of this placement.

the way i see it, the sn leads to the nn. so it shouldn't be completely left behind... the sn should be embraced (only the negativity of sn should be shed) and this is how you reach the nn.

Here is the symbol for your sn:

"IN A COLLECTION OF PERFECT SPECI MANY BIOLOGICAL FORMS, A BUTTERFLY DISPLAYS THE B WINGS, ITS BODY IMPALED BY A FINE DART. KEYNOTE: The immortal archetypal reality that a perfect life reveals."

And your north node:

"A WOMAN JUST RISEN FROM THE SEA. A SEAL IS EMBRACING HER.
KEYNOTE: Emergence of new forms and of the potentiality of consciousness. IMPULSE TO BE."

It might help you to read these sabian symbols in full. (Read the next degree up for instance 0 aries is 1 aries, your venus/ saturn is 26 aries)

http://www.mindfire.ca/An Astrological Mandala/An Astrological Mandala - Contents.htm

 

[draconic]

Madammaha and Phoenix Venus, thank you very much.
from for your precious feedbacks I gather that if the sn ruler is in the nn sign,then it requires a special use, maybe a sort of rewiring of its functions which had been destructive in the past.it all has to be connected with aries energy and with mars, where the challenge is in finding a self-assertiveness in the present, which won't reply the traumatic experience.
this is where I've got so far.
all the best

 

[Madammaha]

It is the Cardinality of your Moon that made me try to shed some light to the function of the planets and nodes, Imo, as an impartial astrologer I could see where your chart is leading to and where your troubles are coming from, that is why I pointed out the (function) of the S.N. in your chart, now all you need is try and simplify most issues, the more you magnify the more blurry the issues become. Neptune and Mars in Scorpio (Mars ruler of Aries).

 

[draconic]

you're so right about dangers of magnifying.that's jupiter on s.n. and expecially conj this peculiar mercury.the more mercury is used in semplifying, the more it dispels the fog.
after attending a seminar about past lives regression, I see the coincidence between s.s. and rising sign as more meaningful and clarifying.the very features of that past pattern have been brought here right to trigger immediately the life circumstances which are necessary to healing.
thank you very much.