Relocation, intuition and a bit of psychology

[helena-IT]

I'm not sure where to post this as this is a combination of many aspects (astrology, intuition, psychology, personal development):

When I was 46 yo (now I am 49) something happened, I never experienced or even dreamed of: I began thinking about leaving my native country and settling abroad.

It came suddenly: I applied for a job that appeared on my Job Board stream out of nowhere, and it was a position in Norway. Although I did have the qualifications, I did not speak norwegian and that was mandatory so the company just thanked me and turned me down. I was really upset at first, however again out of nowhere, over many following months, I started receiving all sorts of "messages" related to Norway, in terms of people I once knew living there now, or just random products and people coming from Norway. And also, at the same time, I started receiving a lot of synchronicities: number 11:11 kept appearing everywhere (and I still see it almost everyday).

Then I decided to start learning norwegian language and I did so completely on my own, successfully. But what is extraordinary, is the fact that, in the past, I've tried to learn many other foreign languages but for some reason none of them "sit" with me, I just did not feel connected neither with the language itself nor with the people. But as for norwegian, as soon as I started learning words and hearing the sounds of the language, it "sit" me with me immediately, it felt natural. I spoke to some norwegian people online, and they told me that I was very fluent and that I sounded almost 90% as a norwegian native speaker, and they were quite shocked that someone who never lived in Norway can speak like that as there are many immigrants who has been living there for years and they still cannot speak fluently.

And on another level, when I started learning about Norway, its culture and society, I've realized that my personal values, mentality and behavior are in complete alignment.
The more I feel connected to Norway, the less I feel connected to my native country, and to be honest, at present I feel like a foreigner.

And now the astrological part of the equation: it all began when Pluto moved to my natal 4th house.
I've been observing and anticipating that moment for years, but I've had totally different expectations. Then out of curiosity I cast my relocation chart by setting Oslo as the place "of birth" and I was quite surprised, as my personal 1st house planets became my 2nd, and many of my hard and challenging natal aspects became soft and more open. And my personal values are something that I've never could express or develop here in my native country, I've always felt disconnected (due to retrograde Saturn in detriment).

Why is this happening now, why all these synchronicities and alignments? Is this Pluto's impact or is it something else?
I'm neither religious nor superstitious but all of these go far beyond my logic and reasoning.

I just KNOW that there's a reason why it's happening, I just do not know why now and what I am supposed to do? Like I'm being called, but by whom or what, and why now? Is this claircognizance or something else?

If this makes any sense to anyone I'd appreciate your explanation. If you need additional context and information, I'd be happy to provide those.

Thank you in advance!

 

[Outlook]

Relocation charts are interesting. All you do is shift the problem to a new area and experience it as if new!

For you the problem will be career and income in Oslo. And also difficult restrictions and responsibilities in jobs. Maybe even no work since saturn is in career house and square pluto in norway chart.

Do you seriously want that? Dont you think its better to have the problem being you (in your home country) rather than your income (norway?). It quite tough not having any support and having income and work problems. These days its become very difficult to find acceptance as a stranger in another country.

I wish you luck.

Btw, its just computer software spying on us and providing more of what they notice you read, select, search etc. these days if you read one article about a car, you get 100 more the next day. Pretty soon you only have that! Clear your cache! I do very often.

 

[helena-IT]

Thank you for your insights and good wishes @Outlook however just a bit of clarification - I don't have a problem with Saturn, on contrary. Jupiter is my biggest malefic, when I had Jupiter transiting my 10th house I lost my job and experienced the worst kind of poverty until Saturn got into the picture (but that's another story and it's very long). For me Saturn is not restriction, it's discipline and hard work. On the other hand I don't mind isolation as I've been living in isolation for the past 20 years or so. I've got no family nor friends and since I'm working from home, the only people I interact with are foreigners. I'm already a stranger in my home country and it cannot go worse than that.
Btw it's not the computer that's spying on me, it's different but it would take me a lot more space to explain.

 

[waybread]

You might want to check out the planetary lines and maps (under special charts) and Astro-Click Travel features at Astrodienst at www.astro.com. See which of your planetary lines (if any) run through Norway.

You know the old saying, "Home is where the heart is."

 

[StarchaserNancy]

Pluto would be right on your asc. I wouldn't be that brave! I've looked at different states here in the US w/ Mars conjunct my asc. and I wouldn't move there, but other things would have worked. It's hard to figure it all out via astrocartography, but maybe time and patience will help.

 

[helena-IT]

You might want to check out the planetary lines and maps (under special charts) and Astro-Click Travel features at Astrodienst at www.astro.com. See which of your planetary lines (if any) run through Norway.

You know the old saying, "Home is where the heart is."

Thank you @waybread I've already done that, check the screenshot: Sun/Venus trine MC right through Oslo.

Thanks @StarchaserNancy ! I'm very plutonian by nature and I'm familiar by its energies and I've got Mars in my 1st so I'm brave

 

[Frisiangal]

Hi Helena,

When I was 46 yo (now I am 49) something happened, I never experienced or even dreamed of: I began thinking about leaving my native country and settling abroad. .......................And now the astrological part of the equation: it all began when Pluto moved to my natal 4th house.

Preceeding the same period there was a close transiting Jupiter-Saturn-Pluto square to 7th house natal Chiron, along with transit Uranus IN the 7th house beginnning its opposition to the Scorpio planets, with Mars ruler of the 7th house. This could not have been an easy time to go through. Did 3rd house 'thoughts' of a destruction (of inner pain?) of an old for a (better?) completely new way of life elsewhere become the bridge of the future to build upon ? When tr. Saturn and Pluto crossed I.C, an astrologer could imagine their impact, through which one would not want to be controlled by outer factors but to take back (independent) control of one's own life.
Do you study the effect of secondary progressions, the once-in-a-lifetime events that can alter one's focus upon life? Is it coincidence that around the same period Sec. progr. Sun left its almost 30 year motion through Sagittarius to begin its long sojourn in Capricorn in which s.p. Mercury and Venus had already taken residence?

Capricorn is renowned for its climbing towards the peaks of ultimate experience of existence, and it is Pluto that burns the bridges of no return. There is no turning back to what or re-living what was. Perhaps that is enough to consider in bringing about a change in one's views of one's life path. The s.p. planets in Capricorn are in the 3rd house of 'local environment', and Capricorn can act as the cement to keep them grounded in the reality of their plhysical existence. It need not be detrimental of nature. A permanency can come that can bring its own rewards.

The 3rd house is that of travel. If your Sagittarius type travelling has always been through spirit, maybe Capricorn can provide a concrete form.
If the mountain ranges, climate, Aurora Borealis ,and long winter nights of Norway attract , why not take a l-o-n-g holiday there to become acquainted with it in a realistic manner before making any decision to relocate there? Natal Saturn in the 9th house may relate a truth you have need to see, especially when tr. Jupiter meets up with it!.

Your age is also worth considering. You are slap in the middle of your Chiron return that occurs around 50 years old and can be affected by any retrograde motion through which it lasts longer than usual. This is so in your case. It would appear that there is a necessity to undergo some inner healing regarding 7th house factors that may take more than a relocation to achieve. 'Let all the pain out', as one might say, by not allowing a Scorpio trend to wallow in the mire of its emotional content. Use the Capricorn energies to their best purpose and the 'sign'al from transiting planets entering new signs to be a guide.

 

[helena-IT]

Thank you @Frisiangal for really detailed insights, I really do appreciate it

Preceding the same period there was a close transiting Jupiter-Saturn-Pluto square to 7th house natal Chiron, along with transit Uranus IN the 7th house beginning its opposition to the Scorpio planets, with Mars ruler of the 7th house. This could not have been an easy time to go through.

Interestingly, Pluto entered my 4th H. right at the beginning of the pandemic lockdowns (4th Feb. 2020) so I was already working from home, that's why I did not feel Jupiter-Saturn-Pluto square to 7th house natal Chiron so strongly because I had a lot of work to focus on, but I there were a lot of tension(s) with my superiors (lack of trust because of WFH) as they were constantly monitoring me (well not only me but everyone in my team). Anyway, I quit that job in april because the (psychological and emotional) pressure was unbearable and ONLY then I started feeling the transition / shift. I don't know if this is significant, but on the very day Pluto entered my 4th. not a single planet (including Chiron and NN) were retrograde! All cosmic energies were direct.

Did 3rd house 'thoughts' of a destruction (of inner pain?) of an old for a (better?) completely new way of life elsewhere become the bridge of the future to build upon? When tr. Saturn and Pluto crossed I.C, an astrologer could imagine their impact, through which one would not want to be controlled by outer factors but to take back (independent) control of one's own life.

Since my natal Pluto is in my natal 12th H, it all started as a psychological discomfort - as I don't have mentality nor personal traits / values of my countrymen, once the lockdown was over and when I got back to interacting with the outside world, I realized that psychological pressure was even greater than before, and it was not just social anxiety: it included news, social media, and just listening to people talking on the street and public transport etc. I remember one day in my local supermarket, when I felt like I was in a foreign country. Really strange feeling.

Do you study the effect of secondary progressions, the once-in-a-lifetime events that can alter one's focus upon life? Is it coincidence that around the same period Sec. progr. Sun left its almost 30 year motion through Sagittarius to begin its long sojourn in Capricorn in which s.p. Mercury and Venus had already taken residence?

YES! I do follow my progs as well, but only personal planets (check my current progs in the attachment). You are right - at the same time during this major shift, Sun, Venus and Mercury moved to Capricorn, and currently they are in my 2nd prog H. (again, focus on personal values!)

The 3rd house is that of travel. If your Sagittarius type travelling has always been through spirit, maybe Capricorn can provide a concrete form.
If the mountain ranges, climate, Aurora Borealis, and long winter nights of Norway attract , why not take a l-o-n-g holiday there to become acquainted with it in a realistic manner before making any decision to relocate there? Natal Saturn in the 9th house may relate a truth you have need to see, especially when tr. Jupiter meets up with it!

I was thinking of taking a 3-week holiday to Oslo at the end of this year - the airplane tickets are quite cheap (approx. 195 euro) and it takes only 2.5 hours from my home town to Oslo. Anyway, I AM a winter person, I love cold climate and snow, I'm also a hiker and walking in the nature already is a part of my routine - 6km daily I'm not a tourist type of person though, I'm more of a "life observer" so I'm not really "drawn" to the typical norwegian attractions and sightseeing

Your age is also worth considering. You are slap in the middle of your Chiron return that occurs around 50 years old and can be affected by any retrograde motion through which it lasts longer than usual. This is so in your case. It would appear that there is a necessity to undergo some inner healing regarding 7th house factors that may take more than a relocation to achieve. 'Let all the pain out', as one might say, by not allowing a Scorpio trend to wallow in the mire of its emotional content. Use the Capricorn energies to their best purpose and the 'sign'all from transiting planets entering new signs to be a guide.

I've been taking care of myself since my early 20es (I care about my diet and fitness), I look and feel a lot younger I'm not married, don't have children, don't have romantic partner etc, so making a physical shift from one place to another wouldn't be much of an issue as - I will not miss anyone nor anyone will miss me.
You're right about the 7th H and Chiron - that has been my weakest link in the chain since forever. I did heal to some extent, as I meditate and journal everyday, I'm practicing breathing techniques and grounding (yes, Capricorn!). I've come to terms to many past traumas - I'm acknowledging them as a part of my identity, but I'm not letting them control me and bother me anymore.

 

[helena-IT]

Hi @Frisiangal just wondering if you've got a follow-up on my comments. Thank you.

 

[Frisiangal]

Hi @Frisiangal just wondering if you've got a follow-up on my comments. Thank you.

Hi again,
Your comments in reply #8 seemed to reflect how you were considering your situation before and after my post to you. That is, hopefully, how it should be; not what I or others consider you should/ should not do.
To my mind, it made a further reply unnecessary.

Good luck, whatever you decide.