Sun/Moon midpoint and its meaning?

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ardentika

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Okay, lately I've been obsessing with that midpoint, because it gives such deep symbolism and meaning to everything else in our natal charts and synastrys, and transits, and everything in general.

What are your thoughts on it? Does your SO/MO make some major aspects in your chart with other planets or points, or even other midpoints? How do you think that plays out? Have you had it triggered during important relationships?

My SO/MO conjuncts exactly my Part of Fortune in 24 Libra, and I have no idea how that could manifest for me, or how to interpret it.

Also in which house it falls and do you think there is significance in the house that the SO/MO falls into?
Mine is exactly conjunct again the 8th house, from the 7th. Again, no idea haha.

It's still a subject that has very little information on the internet.
 
ardentika said:
Okay, lately I've been obsessing with that midpoint, because it gives such deep symbolism and meaning to everything else in our natal charts and synastrys, and transits, and everything in general.

What are your thoughts on it? Does your SO/MO make some major aspects in your chart with other planets or points, or even other midpoints? How do you think that plays out? Have you had it triggered during important relationships?

My SO/MO conjuncts exactly my Part of Fortune in 24 Libra, and I have no idea how that could manifest for me, or how to interpret it.

Also in which house it falls and do you think there is significance in the house that the SO/MO falls into?
Mine is exactly conjunct again the 8th house, from the 7th. Again, no idea haha.

It's still a subject that has very little information on the internet.
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I'm not sure of the answers to all your questions, but in my own chart, my Sun/Moon midpoint falls on my Leo Chiron in the 12th house, my sun being in the 11th and Mars/Moon in the 1st. However just looking at my chart it seems like the Chiron falls more between my mars and Sun

I feel like my Chiron plays a significant role in my life leading to self worth issues, desires to stay out of the spotlight even tho deep down I crave recognition for whatever talents I have. It seems to be one of the biggest running weaknesses of mine. Of course, I know weaknesses are meant to lead us to our strength through much fighting

My interpretation of the Leo Chiron in the 12th house is that it could be the partial root of self esteem issues I've faced my whole life. At times my only solution was the repress any desires to 'fit in' or feel like I belong and I've also had a tendency to hide away from how deeply I hate myself rather than seize my power to become what I want to be. It's like this constant fight... I have no desire to play the games most people do to fit in and I despise fakeness, yet I feel like some alien who just wants a place to belong. That's why I've usually had no choice but to suppress the need. I can't play tbe game but I also don't love myself. The real issue is that I have to embrace myself with all my differences and make my own place in the world, shine like the lion
 
The sign of Leo often times struggles with low self esteem, much as in your case. So it makes sense that you will achieve the inner balance by healing that and getting the recognition you want.
Your chart sounds very open to the public with Sun im 11th and Moon in 1st.
Also is the conjunction exact degrees?
 
If I could see your chart I would be able to give you my opinion regarding that 24 degree Libra so/mo midpoint. Every chart is different so it's difficult to speculate without seeing the whole picture. If you like, feel free to post it here or else email it to me.
 
sammai said:
If I could see your chart I would be able to give you my opinion regarding that 24 degree Libra so/mo midpoint. Every chart is different so it's difficult to speculate without seeing the whole picture. If you like, feel free to post it here or else email it to me.
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Thank you! I will post it, should I include some asteroids?
 
Sure if you like, though if I see the birth info--it doesn't matter, I'll enter into my program so I can see everything more clearly.
 
Sun/Moon midpoint is like your inner self and self put together as one.

Personally, my midpoint isn't all that interesting; doesn't make any crazy or interesting aspects.
 
AppLeo said:
Sun/Moon midpoint is like your inner self and self put together as one.

Personally, my midpoint isn't all that interesting; doesn't make any crazy or interesting aspects.
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I doubt there is an aspect you can call interesting or crazy, it's just an aspect.
Sammai was kind enough to put in an audio recording for me and explain what's it about according to his research.

Basically any natal planet that makes a hard aspect to your midpoint, especially square, will play out throughout your whole life as an internal force/pressure. Any transit from outer planets to that midpoint will trigger events.

As in my case, Sun/Moon 24 Libra was activated by transit Uranus at 24 Aries, and soon will be triggered by Pluto and Saturn going near the same degrees. And those are considered major transformations.
 
Not sure but I kinda think a conjunction would mean restriction whereas a square might push you to escape restriction. The aspect has to be pretty tight. And here its not so I wouldn't look into it.
However the conjunction with the NN I think is highly supportive aspect for you to follow the path of the North Node.
 
ardentika said:
Not sure but I kinda think a conjunction would mean restriction whereas a square might push you to escape restriction. The aspect has to be pretty tight. And here its not so I wouldn't look into it.
However the conjunction with the NN I think is highly supportive aspect for you to follow the path of the North Node.
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Thanks!
In reality I have not stared to walk on the path of nn yet thought I spent almost half of my life span.🤔
But I have too much restriction in my life ever since I was born.
May be other aspetcs or planets reason for than. I'm not sure.
 
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Well the restrictions are an illusion, no one is really restricted, its excuses we give ourselves. Plus no one ever fully walks only the path of the NN. There always must be balance between SN and NN. If you fall too much in SN life will shake you up and make you follow the north node, if you follow too much the north node.. you will prolly experience a lot of emotional turmoil amd discomfort, your own soul pulling you back to balance the scales to the south node.
 
Can anyone share experience with transits to Sun/Moon ? This year Uranus was opposing it but nothing much happened. Well.. actually, there was a seperation with someone I truly loved. It showed up in my SR too. Uranus at 24 Aries in 7th squaring Pluto in 4th.
But I don't think I've had transits that brought something or someone.

I'm not sure if venus transits work too but it might. This year Pluto and Saturn will square my midpoint, not excited, sounds terrifying haha. However when I met the special someone I had Saturn conjunct pluto transit.

I also had transit Jupiter conjunct my S/M somewhere last year... nooothing happened at all.
 

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