greybeard
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I haven't looked at the chart from Researcher, but would like to submit a couple of general comments.
I agree with you Sandstone -- or is it Morin I should be agreeing with -- that mutual receptions very often aggravate difficulties rather than "make it all better". I have seen that in too many charts to ignore it.
Regarding the psychopath/sociopath/character-defective personality (these are all terms used at one time or another in psychiatry for the same condition, which goes to show the very vague conception of just what the "symptoms" of the psychopath are)... The best we can do with astrology is to see the symptoms in the chart, and when they seem preponderant judge that this personality "leans toward" a psychopathic state to a greater or lesser degree. It seems pretty generally agreed among people who study "abnormal psychology" that roughly 5% of the general population -- anywhere and everywhere -- is psychopathic.
Some of the usual features of the psychopathic personality are:
1. Emotional Detachment. Barriers to intimate relationship.
2. Total lack of feelings of remorse or guilt. The personality is incapable of empathy.
3. Extreme ego-centricity. Thoughts are wholly centered on the self and its interests. Others are seen as objects to be used and discarded, as simple obstacles to be removed, etc. Narcissism accompanies the condition.
4. Highly manipulative tendencies. Whatever means are available to attain the desired ends are acceptable to the psychopath, no qualms. The psychopath is generally charming, and knows how to tell you what you want to hear. Implied here is a high sensitivity to the desires and motivations of others, an innate ability to quickly find the "buttons" that will permit manipulation of another.
When I look at my own chart, I see a psychopath. But I'm a gentle, loving, caring, altruistic, self-sacrificing guy. Just ask me. I'll tell you whatever you want to hear. Quite seriously, my own chart shows many of the qualities of the psychopath, but my outlook on life and behavior do not follow the pattern. So what is it in my chart that "deters" the antisocial elements from taking command of the personality?
So in diagnosing this or any other condition, we have to be cautious, carefully weigh all factors and see where that leads our judgment. A horoscope shows "potentials". It generally shows the "probability, or likelihood" of those potentials manifesting in a certain way, but does not give us a locked-in certainty.
On the other hand, I am always amazed by the intimate and highly detailed portrait of a person to be seen in a horoscope.
Researcher.....If you suspect this guy is psychopathic......trust your gut. You don't need a chart. If you are strongly masochistic, perhaps you've found your soul-mate. If not, take reasonable precautions to protect yourself without becoming fearful or worried-anxious. Fear is a horrible and very powerful enemy; it paralyzes us and deadens us to life.
I agree with you Sandstone -- or is it Morin I should be agreeing with -- that mutual receptions very often aggravate difficulties rather than "make it all better". I have seen that in too many charts to ignore it.
Regarding the psychopath/sociopath/character-defective personality (these are all terms used at one time or another in psychiatry for the same condition, which goes to show the very vague conception of just what the "symptoms" of the psychopath are)... The best we can do with astrology is to see the symptoms in the chart, and when they seem preponderant judge that this personality "leans toward" a psychopathic state to a greater or lesser degree. It seems pretty generally agreed among people who study "abnormal psychology" that roughly 5% of the general population -- anywhere and everywhere -- is psychopathic.
Some of the usual features of the psychopathic personality are:
1. Emotional Detachment. Barriers to intimate relationship.
2. Total lack of feelings of remorse or guilt. The personality is incapable of empathy.
3. Extreme ego-centricity. Thoughts are wholly centered on the self and its interests. Others are seen as objects to be used and discarded, as simple obstacles to be removed, etc. Narcissism accompanies the condition.
4. Highly manipulative tendencies. Whatever means are available to attain the desired ends are acceptable to the psychopath, no qualms. The psychopath is generally charming, and knows how to tell you what you want to hear. Implied here is a high sensitivity to the desires and motivations of others, an innate ability to quickly find the "buttons" that will permit manipulation of another.
When I look at my own chart, I see a psychopath. But I'm a gentle, loving, caring, altruistic, self-sacrificing guy. Just ask me. I'll tell you whatever you want to hear. Quite seriously, my own chart shows many of the qualities of the psychopath, but my outlook on life and behavior do not follow the pattern. So what is it in my chart that "deters" the antisocial elements from taking command of the personality?
So in diagnosing this or any other condition, we have to be cautious, carefully weigh all factors and see where that leads our judgment. A horoscope shows "potentials". It generally shows the "probability, or likelihood" of those potentials manifesting in a certain way, but does not give us a locked-in certainty.
On the other hand, I am always amazed by the intimate and highly detailed portrait of a person to be seen in a horoscope.
Researcher.....If you suspect this guy is psychopathic......trust your gut. You don't need a chart. If you are strongly masochistic, perhaps you've found your soul-mate. If not, take reasonable precautions to protect yourself without becoming fearful or worried-anxious. Fear is a horrible and very powerful enemy; it paralyzes us and deadens us to life.