Three horary issues for discussion (answer any)

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Dima Gur

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1.) Always am flabbergasted when I have a horary with the following condition:

Planet A perfects an aspect to planet C first, by degrees (time units).

Planet B perfect an aspect to planet C first, by real time / ephemeris time.

I'm rather certain that the first condition (by degrees) would be the proper way of looking at things from a textbook / tradition point of view.

Alas, this is sometimes difficult for me, as the chart is supposed to shows events which happen by a certain chronological sequence.

When you adopt such an approach the second point of view suddenly becomes enticing.

What do you lean to, when such a situation presents itself and when all three planets are major significators in the question.

(say it was a relationship question of Joe (planet A) wants to win over Sally (planet C), and Tom (planet B) barges in all of a sudden)



2.) Had a few horary relationship questions, in two of which L1 and L7 were separating (by opposition, no less).

I used traditional orb definitions, according to Deborah Houlding’s table of orbs, in order to predict how much time will pass till the relationship will fall apart.

Say The moon was in 6-deg Virgo and Saturn was in 1-deg Pisces; delineated as possible final-breakup in 5.5 time units (was weeks if you have to ask).

That's because the orb between the two is 10.5 degrees.

Do you ever use orbs in such a way in horary or natal? (I know this is the horary forum, but please be forgiving).

Here are the orb tables:



3.) If you're a professional astrologer, how often do you do follow ups for your horary readings?


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Thanks for participating in the discussion :)
 
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I'm not sure I completely follow as I'm getting confused about A, B, and C, but I'll try to help.

Ok, Venus at 3 Gemini, Mars at 16 Leo. The moon had just conjuncted Venus - by one minute of ephemeris time - and moon's next aspect was to sextile Mars, no obstructions.

The reason I remember it was because it was only one minute after the conjunction of moon/Venus.

The horary had a yes answer.
 
1.) Always am flabbergasted when I have a horary with the following condition:

Planet A perfects an aspect to planet C first, by degrees (time units).

Planet B perfect an aspect to planet C first, by real time / ephemeris time.

I'm rather certain that the first condition (by degrees) would be the proper way of looking at things from a textbook / tradition point of view.

Alas, this is sometimes difficult for me, as the chart is supposed to shows events which happen by a certain chronological sequence.

When you adopt such an approach the second point of view suddenly becomes enticing.

What do you lean to, when such a situation presents itself and when all three planets are major significators in the question.

(say it was a relationship question of Joe (planet A) wants to win over Sally (planet C), and Tom (planet B) barges in all of a sudden)

Real time / ephemeris is the only relevant factor. If you are using a computer program usually it has option to show the sequence of perfected aspects.

Distance in degrees is used for timing of perfected aspect but it is useless if another planet perfects the aspect first.

In your example, this is the classic case of prohibition.
Joe (A) is applying aspect to Sally (C) but Tom (B) perfects the aspect first (by real time /ephemeris).
Tom (B) and Sally (C) go out on a date.
Joe (A) must look for another girl, he was too late for Sally.
 
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