Traditional only, transit of elderly 70 years old friend fall

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My friend born in 1956, he will be 70 next year, so yes he is elderly to me.

He fall from the high roof last year (multiple stories high, he work as roof repair), (fall date show on the chart as well as his birthday show), fall from the high roof and broke bones and ribs and hospitalized. He is fine now.

Sorry, I only follow Hellenistic astrology, I refused to use Outer Generational planets. And this section of the forums also said No Outers.

Since the forum update I not know how to attach chart, here I upload the chart: https://i.postimg.cc/tXfL153k/astro...all-from-high-roof-202467-hw-7172-2087985.png

Does the Transit say anything about this fall? I'm still trying to figure out if the Transit show. Transit is not really a Hellenistic concept though. But I'm just interested to see if it shows. There like 5 planets in Gemini that day when he fall.
I'm seeing Transit Saturn, as Saturn take 30 years to go around, so Saturn approaching Conjunct his Natal Mars only happen every 30 years.

I have asked, he not know his birthtime.
 
My friend born in 1956, he will be 70 next year, so yes he is elderly to me.
He fall from the high roof last year (multiple stories high, he work as roof repair), (fall date show on the chart as well as his birthday show), fall from the high roof and broke bones and ribs and hospitalized. He is fine now.
Sorry, I only follow Hellenistic astrology, I refused to use Outer Generational planets. And this section of the forums also said No Outers.
Since the forum update I not know how to attach chart, here I upload the chart
: https://i.postimg.cc/tXfL153k/astro...all-from-high-roof-202467-hw-7172-2087985.pnghttps://i.postimg.cc/tXfL153k/astro...all-from-high-roof-202467-hw-7172-2087985.png
Does the Transit say anything about this fall? I'm still trying to figure out if the Transit show. Transit is not really a Hellenistic concept though. But I'm just interested to see if it shows.
Hellenistic astrologers did use PROFECTION to determine the LOY aka LORD OF THE YEAR as well as the SOLAR REVOLUTION and other TIME LORD METHODOLOGY aligned with the natal chart and current planetary locations :)

There like 5 planets in Gemini that day when he fall.
I'm seeing Transit Saturn, as Saturn take 30 years to go around, so Saturn approaching Conjunct his Natal Mars only happen every 30 years.

I have asked, he not know his birthtime.
 
Right. But he doesn't know this birth time, I couldn't get other Time Lord techniques without his birth time.
 
One other thing I don't like about Modern concept as show in that chart above is "Out of sign" aspect. You see he has a 3 Libra Sun, and a 25 degree Gemini Moon. Modern just jump the sign and said he has 8 orb of Sun Square Moon.

Sorry, Traditional doesn't work that way. There No way you can have a Square between the sign Gemini and Libra. They are both Air sign same module, it a Trine. Air sign Trine each others.

To me he has a Libra Sun Sun Trine Gemini Moon, just wide orb. I only use Traditional.
 
To me, the timing seems a bit off, as the transits are a bit past exact. (separating.) However, the orbs (moieties) would still pertain.

This article on some traditional astrologers' acceptance of out-of-sign aspects may be of interest:
https://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects.html

Mars retrograde could easily relate to injuries. Saturn rules bones, so the combination of transiting Saturn hitting natal Mars suggests factures. Jupiter rules high places in a house, and I note Jupiter opposite Mars.

There was a lot going on with mutable signs.

With respect to natal transits

Transiting Saturn conjunct natal Mars opposite natal Jupiter

Mercury applies to a square with Mars.

Sun applies to squares with Mars and Jupiter (partile.)

Venus and Moon squares are separating but still in-orb.

The moon typically is a trigger, as the faster-moving planet. If both the birth time (here a 12:00 noon default) and accident time were a bit earlier, the chart results would look slightly better
 
Thank you Mrs. waybread, my friend all his life not into astrology. I have to ask him his birthday and the day of his fall, his birthday (in the chart), it just he not know his birth time so Timelord techniques Hellenistic will be off.

The aspects you said has alot of Mars, maybe Mars the trigger, I do know Saturn take 30 years to orbit around, so he won't have a Transit Saturn Conjunct Natal Mars unless it 30 years Saturn come back to the same sign.

Do not know his birthtime at all, his mom is not alive, and he never ask her, his birth certificate does not have a birth time on it.

His fall on June 7, 2024
His birthday on the chart, no birth time.

I can get the time of his fall, this he should know.

I was just wondering if "astrology" show as he said he does roof fixing stuff like 20 years, BUT until now this fall that now he stop do roof work anymore.

Multiple broke ribs and bones and was hospitalized, bleeding on his face too. It was bad. I just wonder what trigger it.
 
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Thank you Mrs. waybread, my friend all his life not into astrology. I have to ask him his birthday and the day of his fall, his birthday (in the chart), it just he not know his birth time so Timelord techniques Hellenistic will be off.

The aspects you said has alot of Mars, maybe Mars the trigger, I do know Saturn take 30 years to orbit around, so he won't have a Transit Saturn Conjunct Natal Mars unless it 30 years Saturn come back to the same sign.

Do not know his birthtime at all, his mom is not alive, and he never ask her, his birth certificate does not have a birth time on it.

His fall on June 7, 2024
His birthday on the chart, no birth time.

I can get the time of his fall, this he should know.
That's important to have :)
I was just wondering if "astrology" show as he said he does roof fixing stuff like 20 years, BUT until now this fall that now he stop do roof work anymore.

Multiple broke ribs and bones and was hospitalized, bleeding on his face too. It was bad. I just wonder what trigger it.
 
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