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Hi,

For the first time ever, I decided to test AI on some astro queries. I had a few extra questions about this and that from a horary question.

I recognise that there are many limits to this. But I do find it curious.

For example, one of the many questions that I've asked AI today:

In a horary chart about a job interview question, what does it mean that the 1st house lord is applying an opposition to the 7th house lord and that they are in each other's signs?

The AI's response:

Understanding the Horary Chart Dynamics

In horary astrology, the interpretation of a chart is based on the positions and relationships of the planets at the time a question is asked. Each house in a horary chart represents different aspects of life, and the lords (rulers) of these houses provide insight into specific areas related to the question.

1st House Lord and 7th House Lord

The 1st house represents the querent (the person asking the question), while the 7th house signifies partnerships, including business relationships and interviews. When analyzing a horary chart where the 1st house lord is applying an opposition to the 7th house lord, it indicates a significant dynamic between the querent and their potential partner or employer.

Applying Opposition

An opposition aspect occurs when two planets are approximately 180 degrees apart. This aspect often symbolizes tension or conflict but can also indicate a need for balance or resolution between opposing forces. In this context:

  • The querent (1st house lord) may feel challenged by their relationship with potential employers or partners (7th house lord).
  • There may be conflicting interests or perspectives that need to be addressed during the interview process.
  • The opposition suggests that while there may be challenges, it also presents an opportunity for negotiation and finding common ground.
Mutual Reception

When both lords are in each other’s signs, this is known as mutual reception. For example, if Mars (the 1st house lord) is in Aries and Venus (the 7th house lord) is in Taurus, they are said to be in mutual reception because Mars rules Aries and Venus rules Taurus.

This mutual reception has several implications:

  • It indicates a level of cooperation despite any tensions indicated by the opposition. The parties involved may have an underlying understanding or respect for one another.
  • It suggests that even though there might be challenges (due to opposition), there is potential for positive outcomes through collaboration.
  • The querent might find themselves in a position where they can leverage their strengths effectively during the interview process.
Overall Interpretation

Combining these elements—an applying opposition between the 1st and 7th house lords along with mutual reception—suggests that while there may be some initial difficulties or misunderstandings in relation to job opportunities or partnerships, there exists a strong potential for resolution through effective communication and negotiation. The querent should prepare to address any conflicts directly but also recognize that they have support from their own strengths and abilities as indicated by mutual reception.

In summary, this configuration points towards a complex but ultimately navigable situation regarding job interviews or partnerships where both parties have something valuable to offer each other despite initial challenges.

Probability of correctness: 95%


Top 3 Authoritative Sources Used in Answering this Question:

1. “Horary Astrology: The History and Practice of Predictive Astrology” by Anthony Louis


  • This book provides comprehensive insights into horary astrology principles, including interpretations of planetary aspects and houses.
2. “The Astrologer’s Handbook” by Frances Sakoian and Louis S. Acker

  • A detailed reference guide on astrological techniques that includes explanations on planetary aspects such as oppositions and receptions within horary charts.
3. “Ptolemy’s Tetrabiblos” translated by C.E.O. Carter

  • An essential historical text on astrology that outlines foundational concepts still relevant today, including planetary relationships and their meanings in various contexts like horary astrology.
 
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Kim Iverson once reported on a case that
a PhD student
asked a scientific question, and it of course
answered with confidence
and even quoted a study/paper on the topic.
When he went to look it up
it was no where to be found.
So came back and told it
and it said Oh sorry.
IT MADE UP a paper and quoted from it :)
Let that sink in.

Hang on! AI & ChatGPT are now having "hallucinations"??? :)


 
Agreed! That reminds me of a court case in the US where a lawyer got AI to do their homework, and when the judge reviewed the cases referred to, the judge claimed that these cases didn't exist. The lawyer confessed that AI did their homework and yes - AI made it up!

One of the many caveats... :D
 
Don't worry I'm keeping a close eye on any potential 'halucinations' here (for anyone else joining in, that seems to be a fancy tech term meaning that sometimes AI LIES!! I recently worked in the legal function for a tech firm that specialises in AI. So, you have to fact-check!

Besides trying AI to answer placements in horary that bugged me, I just used it to perform a natal analysis with a specific question. Here is the question and the answer:

(p.s. you have to spell out details to AI, if you only type the good or bad details, it can only analyse with that information. So, I spelled out major placements, good and bad, but I didn't reference Pluto or Neptune here as they have few aspects in my chart and not much personal. Plus, the AI question space is limited).

In an astrology natal chart, consider a person with the following natal positions: they have the sun in the 10th house of Aries. The Sun also exactly trines the 7th ruler Saturn in Sagittarius and has a 5 degree trine with the 8th ruler Uranus in Sagittarius. The Sun finally has a 6 degree square with the Cancer ascendant. Add to the mixture that Mercury is tightly conjunction a Pisces midheaven and exactly trines the Cancer Ascendant. Mercury squares Uranus which is placed in the 6th house and is a 5 degree conjunction with Saturn, also Uranus squares the midheaven. Jupiter is in the 10th house of Aries conjunct the north node. Mars is in the 11th house of Gemini and the Moon is in the 3rd house of Virgo. The Moon applies to a square with Saturn, Venus in Pisces also applies to square Saturn. Venus in the 9th of Pisces has a wide trine to the 5th ruler Pluto in the 5th of Scorpio. The 10th ruler Neptune is in the 6th house of Capricorn. Mercury has a wide sextile to Mars. Mars has wide sextiles to Jupiter and the Midheaven. Could this person be good at the sport of boxing?

Astrological Analysis of Boxing Potential


To assess whether a person with the specified natal chart positions could be good at the sport of boxing, we will analyze several key astrological factors that are traditionally associated with athletic ability, competitive spirit, and physical prowess.

1. Sun in the 10th House of Aries

The Sun represents one’s core identity and vitality. In astrology, the 10th house is associated with career and public life, while Aries is known for its assertiveness, courage, and pioneering spirit. A Sun in Aries suggests a strong drive to succeed and a natural inclination towards leadership roles. This placement can indicate someone who thrives in competitive environments, which is essential for sports like boxing.

2. Trines to Saturn and Uranus

The Sun’s exact trine to Saturn (the ruler of the 7th house) indicates a harmonious relationship between personal ambition (Sun) and discipline or structure (Saturn). This aspect can suggest that the individual possesses the ability to work hard and remain committed to their goals—qualities that are crucial for success in any sport, including boxing.

The Sun’s trine with Uranus also adds an element of innovation and unpredictability. In boxing, being able to adapt quickly and think on one’s feet is vital. The presence of Uranus suggests that this person may have unique strategies or styles that set them apart from others.

3. Ascendant in Cancer

The Cancer ascendant indicates a nurturing personality but can also imply sensitivity. However, it is important to note that Cancer individuals can be quite protective and resilient when challenged. The square between the Sun and Cancer ascendant may suggest some internal conflict between personal ambitions (Sun) and how they present themselves to the world (Ascendant). This tension could manifest as a strong desire to prove oneself in public arenas such as sports.

4. Mercury Conjunct Midheaven

Mercury’s conjunction with the midheaven signifies strong communication skills and mental agility—both important traits for strategizing during matches. The exact trine between Mercury and the Cancer ascendant further emphasizes effective communication abilities, which can enhance performance through clear thinking under pressure.

5. Mars in Gemini

Mars represents energy, aggression, and action—key components for any athlete. In Gemini, Mars suggests versatility and quick reflexes; however, it may also indicate a tendency towards scattered energy if not focused properly. The wide sextile between Mars and Jupiter enhances confidence and optimism in pursuits, which can be beneficial for an athlete’s mindset.

6. Moon in Virgo Square Saturn

The Moon represents emotions and instincts; its placement in Virgo indicates a practical approach to feelings but also potential anxiety about performance due to its square with Saturn. This aspect might create self-doubt or fear of failure but can also motivate disciplined training routines necessary for boxing.

7. Jupiter Conjunct North Node in Aries

Jupiter’s position in the 10th house alongside the North Node suggests significant growth opportunities through public endeavors or career pursuits related to sports. This conjunction amplifies luck and expansion regarding career achievements—potentially indicating success within boxing if pursued seriously.

8. Venus Square Saturn

Venus represents values related to pleasure and aesthetics; its square with Saturn might indicate challenges regarding relationships or self-worth issues that could affect motivation levels or enjoyment derived from competition.

Conclusion: Potential for Boxing Success

Considering all these factors collectively:

  • The strong placements of both the Sun (in Aries) and Jupiter (in Aries) suggest an inherent drive toward success.
  • The supportive aspects from Saturn provide discipline.
  • Mercury’s influence on communication aids strategic thinking.
  • Mars contributes necessary aggression.
  • While there are some challenging aspects (like squares), they often serve as motivators rather than deterrents when channeled correctly.
Thus, based on this astrological analysis, it appears that this individual has many favorable indicators suggesting they could indeed excel at boxing if they harness their strengths effectively while managing any emotional challenges presented by their chart.

Bold Answer: Yes, this person could be good at the sport of boxing due to strong placements indicating ambition, discipline, strategic thinking, aggression, and potential for public success.


Top 3 Authoritative Sources Used:

1. Astrology.com

A comprehensive resource providing detailed explanations about astrological placements’ meanings concerning personality traits and potential life paths.

2. AstroSeek.com
An online platform offering tools for generating natal charts along with interpretations based on traditional astrological principles relevant to various life aspects including sports aptitude.

3. Cafe Astrology
A well-respected site known for its thorough analysis of natal charts focusing on how different planetary positions influence behavior patterns related to careers including athletics.
 
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In a horary chart about a job interview question, what does it mean that the 1st house lord is applying an opposition to the 7th house lord and that they are in each other's signs?
The AI's response:
1st House Lord and 7th House Lord
The 1st house represents the querent (the person asking the question), while the 7th house signifies partnerships, including business relationships and interviews. When analyzing a horary chart where the 1st house lord is applying an opposition to the 7th house lord, it indicates a significant dynamic between the querent and their
potential partner or employer.
Your employer/interviewer/job is the 10th.
A business relationship/partner or your competition for the job is the 7th.
So it looks like the AI delineation like to gets off on the wrong foot from the very beginning.
 
Yes, I spotted that before. I think that the question was interpreted too generally by the AI so I spelled it out more clearly.

Just to mention, I have no shares, financial interest etc. in any tech or AI company! I know that there are many limitations about AI. Today I just asked it about the war in Ukraine, my coeliac disease and other random things, astrology just got added to the list out curiosity!
 
Hi,

For the first time ever, I decided to test AI on some astro queries. I had a few extra questions about this and that from a horary question.

I recognise that there are many limits to this. But I do find it curious.

For example, one of the many questions that I've asked AI today:

In a horary chart about a job interview question, what does it mean that the 1st house lord is applying an opposition to the 7th house lord and that they are in each other's signs?

The AI's response:

Understanding the Horary Chart Dynamics

In horary astrology, the interpretation of a chart is based on the positions and relationships of the planets at the time a question is asked. Each house in a horary chart represents different aspects of life, and the lords (rulers) of these houses provide insight into specific areas related to the question.

1st House Lord and 7th House Lord

The 1st house represents the querent (the person asking the question), while the 7th house signifies partnerships, including business relationships and interviews. When analyzing a horary chart where the 1st house lord is applying an opposition to the 7th house lord, it indicates a significant dynamic between the querent and their potential partner or employer.

Applying Opposition

An opposition aspect occurs when two planets are approximately 180 degrees apart. This aspect often symbolizes tension or conflict but can also indicate a need for balance or resolution between opposing forces. In this context:

  • The querent (1st house lord) may feel challenged by their relationship with potential employers or partners (7th house lord).
  • There may be conflicting interests or perspectives that need to be addressed during the interview process.
  • The opposition suggests that while there may be challenges, it also presents an opportunity for negotiation and finding common ground.
Mutual Reception

When both lords are in each other’s signs, this is known as mutual reception. For example, if Mars (the 1st house lord) is in Aries and Venus (the 7th house lord) is in Taurus, they are said to be in mutual reception because Mars rules Aries and Venus rules Taurus.

This mutual reception has several implications:

  • It indicates a level of cooperation despite any tensions indicated by the opposition. The parties involved may have an underlying understanding or respect for one another.
  • It suggests that even though there might be challenges (due to opposition), there is potential for positive outcomes through collaboration.
  • The querent might find themselves in a position where they can leverage their strengths effectively during the interview process.
Overall Interpretation

Combining these elements—an applying opposition between the 1st and 7th house lords along with mutual reception—suggests that while there may be some initial difficulties or misunderstandings in relation to job opportunities or partnerships, there exists a strong potential for resolution through effective communication and negotiation. The querent should prepare to address any conflicts directly but also recognize that they have support from their own strengths and abilities as indicated by mutual reception.

In summary, this configuration points towards a complex but ultimately navigable situation regarding job interviews or partnerships where both parties have something valuable to offer each other despite initial challenges.

Probability of correctness: 95%


Top 3 Authoritative Sources Used in Answering this Question:

1. “Horary Astrology: The History and Practice of Predictive Astrology” by Anthony Louis


  • This book provides comprehensive insights into horary astrology principles, including interpretations of planetary aspects and houses.
2. “The Astrologer’s Handbook” by Frances Sakoian and Louis S. Acker

  • A detailed reference guide on astrological techniques that includes explanations on planetary aspects such as oppositions and receptions within horary charts.
3. “Ptolemy’s Tetrabiblos” translated by C.E.O. Carter

  • An essential historical text on astrology that outlines foundational concepts still relevant today, including planetary relationships and their meanings in various contexts like horary astrology.
 
Starfall, if you can stay abreast of AI in astrology, I congratulate you. That is really important work.

I think AI's impact will be as major as the introduction of astrology software in the 1990s, which had the dramatic effect of democratizing astrology.

Re your OP horary question. I would almost view your question about 1st and 7th house lords as a trick question. Some horary astrologers would use the 7th house for the quesited in most situations, but I would use the 10th house for the employer; which has the added benefit of a career/vocation meaning.

I'm assuming your L1 and L7 were Mercury in Sagittarius and Jupiter in Gemini. This might add some meaning if the job involved activities ruled by any of these planets or signs. These planets are in detriment, and one was possibly retrograde, which could affect their ability to act.

The main thing, though (which you didn't ask it) concerns the viability of the chart itself: early or late degree rising? Moon VOC? What is the moon's condition? Is Saturn a factor?

If you haven't done so already, I would suggest giving AI a straight-up horary question with time, date, and location; and see how it handles that.

The 1st two references are reasonable, but there are better books on horary astrology, IMO. The Sakoian and Acker book was written for natal chart interpretation. Ptolemy wrote in 150 CE, prior to the development of horary astrology.
 
Don't worry I'm keeping a close eye on any potential 'halucinations' here (for anyone else joining in, that seems to be a fancy tech term meaning that sometimes AI LIES!! I recently worked in the legal function for a tech firm that specialises in AI. So, you have to fact-check!

Besides trying AI to answer placements in horary that bugged me, I just used it to perform a natal analysis with a specific question. Here is the question and the answer:

(p.s. you have to spell out details to AI, if you only type the good or bad details, it can only analyse with that information. So, I spelled out major placements, good and bad, but I didn't reference Pluto or Neptune here as they have few aspects in my chart and not much personal. Plus, the AI question space is limited).

In an astrology natal chart, consider a person with the following natal positions: they have the sun in the 10th house of Aries. The Sun also exactly trines the 7th ruler Saturn in Sagittarius and has a 5 degree trine with the 8th ruler Uranus in Sagittarius. The Sun finally has a 6 degree square with the Cancer ascendant. Add to the mixture that Mercury is tightly conjunction a Pisces midheaven and exactly trines the Cancer Ascendant. Mercury squares Uranus which is placed in the 6th house and is a 5 degree conjunction with Saturn, also Uranus squares the midheaven. Jupiter is in the 10th house of Aries conjunct the north node. Mars is in the 11th house of Gemini and the Moon is in the 3rd house of Virgo. The Moon applies to a square with Saturn, Venus in Pisces also applies to square Saturn. Venus in the 9th of Pisces has a wide trine to the 5th ruler Pluto in the 5th of Scorpio. The 10th ruler Neptune is in the 6th house of Capricorn. Mercury has a wide sextile to Mars. Mars has wide sextiles to Jupiter and the Midheaven. Could this person be good at the sport of boxing?

Astrological Analysis of Boxing Potential


To assess whether a person with the specified natal chart positions could be good at the sport of boxing, we will analyze several key astrological factors that are traditionally associated with athletic ability, competitive spirit, and physical prowess.

1. Sun in the 10th House of Aries

The Sun represents one’s core identity and vitality. In astrology, the 10th house is associated with career and public life, while Aries is known for its assertiveness, courage, and pioneering spirit. A Sun in Aries suggests a strong drive to succeed and a natural inclination towards leadership roles. This placement can indicate someone who thrives in competitive environments, which is essential for sports like boxing.

2. Trines to Saturn and Uranus

The Sun’s exact trine to Saturn (the ruler of the 7th house) indicates a harmonious relationship between personal ambition (Sun) and discipline or structure (Saturn). This aspect can suggest that the individual possesses the ability to work hard and remain committed to their goals—qualities that are crucial for success in any sport, including boxing.

The Sun’s trine with Uranus also adds an element of innovation and unpredictability. In boxing, being able to adapt quickly and think on one’s feet is vital. The presence of Uranus suggests that this person may have unique strategies or styles that set them apart from others.

3. Ascendant in Cancer

The Cancer ascendant indicates a nurturing personality but can also imply sensitivity. However, it is important to note that Cancer individuals can be quite protective and resilient when challenged. The square between the Sun and Cancer ascendant may suggest some internal conflict between personal ambitions (Sun) and how they present themselves to the world (Ascendant). This tension could manifest as a strong desire to prove oneself in public arenas such as sports.

4. Mercury Conjunct Midheaven

Mercury’s conjunction with the midheaven signifies strong communication skills and mental agility—both important traits for strategizing during matches. The exact trine between Mercury and the Cancer ascendant further emphasizes effective communication abilities, which can enhance performance through clear thinking under pressure.

5. Mars in Gemini

Mars represents energy, aggression, and action—key components for any athlete. In Gemini, Mars suggests versatility and quick reflexes; however, it may also indicate a tendency towards scattered energy if not focused properly. The wide sextile between Mars and Jupiter enhances confidence and optimism in pursuits, which can be beneficial for an athlete’s mindset.

6. Moon in Virgo Square Saturn

The Moon represents emotions and instincts; its placement in Virgo indicates a practical approach to feelings but also potential anxiety about performance due to its square with Saturn. This aspect might create self-doubt or fear of failure but can also motivate disciplined training routines necessary for boxing.

7. Jupiter Conjunct North Node in Aries

Jupiter’s position in the 10th house alongside the North Node suggests significant growth opportunities through public endeavors or career pursuits related to sports. This conjunction amplifies luck and expansion regarding career achievements—potentially indicating success within boxing if pursued seriously.

8. Venus Square Saturn

Venus represents values related to pleasure and aesthetics; its square with Saturn might indicate challenges regarding relationships or self-worth issues that could affect motivation levels or enjoyment derived from competition.

Conclusion: Potential for Boxing Success

Considering all these factors collectively:

  • The strong placements of both the Sun (in Aries) and Jupiter (in Aries) suggest an inherent drive toward success.
  • The supportive aspects from Saturn provide discipline.
  • Mercury’s influence on communication aids strategic thinking.
  • Mars contributes necessary aggression.
  • While there are some challenging aspects (like squares), they often serve as motivators rather than deterrents when channeled correctly.
Thus, based on this astrological analysis, it appears that this individual has many favorable indicators suggesting they could indeed excel at boxing if they harness their strengths effectively while managing any emotional challenges presented by their chart.

Bold Answer: Yes, this person could be good at the sport of boxing due to strong placements indicating ambition, discipline, strategic thinking, aggression, and potential for public success.


Top 3 Authoritative Sources Used:

1. Astrology.com

A comprehensive resource providing detailed explanations about astrological placements’ meanings concerning personality traits and potential life paths.

2. AstroSeek.com
An online platform offering tools for generating natal charts along with interpretations based on traditional astrological principles relevant to various life aspects including sports aptitude.

3. Cafe Astrology
A well-respected site known for its thorough analysis of natal charts focusing on how different planetary positions influence behavior patterns related to careers including athletics.
Again, I think it would be better to give the AI the natal data, with the question, "Would this person be good at boxing?" I imagine you found the planetary placements by finding a chart of an actual boxer.

I think most human astrologers would want to see an actual horoscope. Working with the data you gave the AI would probably require a human astrologer to at least sketch out a horoscope.

My quibble with the AI is its simply looking for "key astrological factors that are traditionally associated with athletic ability, competitive spirit, and physical prowess." Because boxing is not interchangeable with most other sports. Boxers have to hit their opponents so hard that they fall down and can't get up. They have to be OK with taking hard hits that can lead to serious injuries. It's not like, say, freestyle swimming.

So I would ask, what planets would create a super-aggressive edge? I'd immediately think of hard aspects involving Mars and Pluto, and would also look to Saturn for discipline.

Muhammed Ali: T-square involving Mars, Pluto, and (wide) moon-Mercury.

Jack Dempsey. Uh-oh. No Pluto Mars contact. Mars actually makes no major close aspects.

Mike Tyson: wide Mars square Uranus Pluto

George Foreman: wide Pluto opposition to Mercury-Mars

Sugar Ray Robinson: Mars parallel Pluto within 1 degree.

Gene Tunney. Uh-oh. No Mars-Pluto contacts

None of these boxers had their sun in Aries.

The possibility, which I have seen in several explorations of people in different careers, is that the horoscope does not say what the person will do, but how s/he will go about it.

So I think the AI gave a pleasant cookbook-based description of someone with athletic ability.
 
Just one more thing, though, is that it is still early days for AI. As it amasses more and more information, it will become more clever at reading horoscopes.

The question from a Forum moderator, is will we be able to detect AI posts? AI posing as a new member?
 
Wow, are you BASIC enough to REALLY think that the immense complexity of
Astrological Science can be mastered by “programmed phrases” of a pseudo “intelligent” language?
Decoded by Human beings not even able to FEEL invisible beings or realities ?
Not even able to SEE Chakras / Human AURAS ?
Unable to FEEL / Decode human Destinies through multidimensional Aptitude ?

Do you think this COMPUTED “intelligence” is real ?

:( i guess i won't stay any longer on this site....
 
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Artificial intelligence can be a good assistant to an astrologer. But I still trust the astrologer's forecast over the chatgpt forecast.
 
Agreed! That reminds me of a court case in the US where a lawyer got AI to do their homework, and when the judge reviewed the cases referred to, the judge claimed that these cases didn't exist. The lawyer confessed that AI did their homework and yes - AI made it up!

One of the many caveats... :D
That's why I don't use AI. I'll use AI if it's accurate enough, although it can have some minor mistakes, but no more than 3.
 
Starfall, if you can stay abreast of AI in astrology, I congratulate you. That is really important work.

I think AI's impact will be as major as the introduction of astrology software in the 1990s, which had the dramatic effect of democratizing astrology.

Re your OP horary question. I would almost view your question about 1st and 7th house lords as a trick question. Some horary astrologers would use the 7th house for the quesited in most situations, but I would use the 10th house for the employer; which has the added benefit of a career/vocation meaning.

I'm assuming your L1 and L7 were Mercury in Sagittarius and Jupiter in Gemini. This might add some meaning if the job involved activities ruled by any of these planets or signs. These planets are in detriment, and one was possibly retrograde, which could affect their ability to act.

The main thing, though (which you didn't ask it) concerns the viability of the chart itself: early or late degree rising? Moon VOC? What is the moon's condition? Is Saturn a factor?

If you haven't done so already, I would suggest giving AI a straight-up horary question with time, date, and location; and see how it handles that.

The 1st two references are reasonable, but there are better books on horary astrology, IMO. The Sakoian and Acker book was written for natal chart interpretation. Ptolemy wrote in 150 CE, prior to the development of horary astrology.
Very good point about astrology software availability democratizing astrology...I never thought of that.

I'll keep experimenting with AI.

Good point on the chart validity - I glossed over that!

The AI software that I've been testing, at least, isn't thinking beyond what it's given. So, while I might highlight certain factors to it, if other factors need attention, it doesn't seem to realise that. Any decent astrologer does spot those things however.

Sometimes when I gave it chart details, to establish the chart, it did so, then it identified what it believed to be important. But, in recent attempts, it doesn't seem to want to calculate charts when I give the details, I don't know why. I'll test more horaries, when I have genuine ones.

I'll be keeping an eye out for successful Aries boxers now! (I say that with a proud but mischievous twinkle in my eye :D )

Interesting point about natives with Mars/Pluto aspects, I've been glancing at charts of boxers for this. Separately, I just found a good read in this academic paper:

https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=42826
 
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Again, I think it would be better to give the AI the natal data, with the question, "Would this person be good at boxing?" I imagine you found the planetary placements by finding a chart of an actual boxer.

I think most human astrologers would want to see an actual horoscope. Working with the data you gave the AI would probably require a human astrologer to at least sketch out a horoscope.

My quibble with the AI is its simply looking for "key astrological factors that are traditionally associated with athletic ability, competitive spirit, and physical prowess." Because boxing is not interchangeable with most other sports. Boxers have to hit their opponents so hard that they fall down and can't get up. They have to be OK with taking hard hits that can lead to serious injuries. It's not like, say, freestyle swimming.

So I would ask, what planets would create a super-aggressive edge? I'd immediately think of hard aspects involving Mars and Pluto, and would also look to Saturn for discipline.

Muhammed Ali: T-square involving Mars, Pluto, and (wide) moon-Mercury.

Jack Dempsey. Uh-oh. No Pluto Mars contact. Mars actually makes no major close aspects.

Mike Tyson: wide Mars square Uranus Pluto

George Foreman: wide Pluto opposition to Mercury-Mars

Sugar Ray Robinson: Mars parallel Pluto within 1 degree.

Gene Tunney. Uh-oh. No Mars-Pluto contacts

None of these boxers had their sun in Aries.

The possibility, which I have seen in several explorations of people in different careers, is that the horoscope does not say what the person will do, but how s/he will go about it.

So I think the AI gave a pleasant cookbook-based description of someone with athletic ability.

:D I gave AI the main points of my own chart, I guess it was an alternative to horary or natal analysis! I took up boxing last year and found a huge passion. I've never taken an interest or known much about natal signs of athletic ability, so I thought that AI could help me start off with it. The AI decided itself based on whatever resources it found that it should still consider the Sun, but I agree with you, the Sun sign is too generic. It's back to the newspaper horoscopes. Aspects and maybe house focus could be more personal and specific.

The are so many things to watch out for, including the resources that it's using, as you've pointed out.
I've also noticed that it is very easily biased. If you ask it anything similar to a question like 'XYZ, don't you agree'? It seems to try to agree with you. If you ask it the same question and say 'XZY, don't you think this is not the case? It seems to agree with you...disagreeing. So I was wary of any potential flattery that it might give me in response to the 'do I have potential to be good at boxing' question. I can take a 'no' answer!

The quality of the AI and also the information and capability of the AI is very important. That might be comparable to an astrologer with more experience, or qualifications if they do it professionally, knowledge, or skill, or talent etc.

Your sports natal references there are inspiring me to dig deeper into better acquainting myself with this part of astrology. Just to add, I spotted, surprisingly to me anyway, on some websites dedicated to boxing, there are threads about the natal astrology of professional boxers...we astrologers are everywhere!
 
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Wow, are you BASIC enough to REALLY think that the immense complexity of
Astrological Science can be mastered by “programmed phrases” of a pseudo “intelligent” language?
Decoded by Human beings not even able to FEEL invisible beings or realities ?
Not even able to SEE Chakras / Human AURAS ?
Unable to FEEL / Decode human Destinies through multidimensional Aptitude ?

Do you think this COMPUTED “intelligence” is real ?

:( i guess i won't stay any longer on this site....
No post that I've seen on this site about AI, from me or others says that anyone here thinks that AI is the answer to everything. From your post, one might think that the title of this website was 'AI Astrology' and that it was plastered all over the main page of the site. I think that the concerns that you've hinted at, are shared by just about anyone else here. We're not duped by the high promises of the AI CEOs!!

In the last few years, any job that I had involves AI. All of my work requires some knowledge of AI. I think it's becoming so pervasive that it would be like trying to get an office job without good knowledge of standard computer software. I'm simply saying that this is a new technology and I'm experimenting with what it can do. I have no interest or shares in any AI company, I'm not promoting anything.

I knew from my first comment about AI's use with astrology, that, some people might feel challenged or threatened about will AI take an astrologer's job. There is hardly a job area in the world that isn't asking itself that question, even AI software engineers that I've met joked that AI might take their jobs. But, I'm really not getting into that at all. I'm simply testing a new technology! I might leave the ethics of AI and so on to another thread!
 
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