Why doesn't anyone predict who will win between Trump and Harris?

[Racheal G]

Then I will use my astrological knowledge to predict who will be the next president of the United States.

First of all, I'd like to state that I am not an American citizen, so there is no political overtones.
I am just making a prediction from an astrological point of view, just think of it as a game.

From the perspective of political influence, Trump is far better than Harris. Harris is no match for Trump.
But I am only comparing the horoscopes of Trump and Harris. The information I got is that Harris is more likely to win.
So I have been wondering if it's the person who decides the destiny or the destiny that decides the person.

Just from an astrological point of view, I think Harris will win.

So let's wait and see if this prediction is ultimately accurate or not.

 

[waybread]

Rachael, see this thread:
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/index.php?threads/vp-kamala-harris-next-president.150983/
Although it is specifically about Kamala Harris, obviously Donald Trump's performance will have a lot to do with whether she wins or loses.

 

[JUPITERASC]

Then I will use my astrological knowledge to predict who will be the next president of the United States.
First of all, I'd like to state that I am not an American citizen, so there is no political overtones.
I am just making a prediction from an astrological point of view, just think of it as a game.

so post the astrology

From the perspective of political influence, Trump is far better than Harris. Harris is no match for Trump.
But I am only comparing the horoscopes of Trump and Harris. The information I got is that Harris is more likely to win. So I have been wondering if it's the person who decides the destiny or the destiny that decides the person.

but
there's no comparison posted

Just from an astrological point of view, I think Harris will win.
So let's wait and see if this prediction is ultimately accurate or not.

https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/index.php?threads/kamala-harris-next-president.151001/
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[JupiterinCap]

It hasn't been done here yet? I'll give it a shot as my work is almost completed & then I head home for the weekend.
I don't have the charts in front of me but I have looked at them not long ago & can highlight the points which form my
opinion on who I think will win the election.
Moon is in sunny sagg which happens to be the same moon position as Trump. Moon will be aligned with venus which
highlights the jubilant day for Trump with extremely happy energies. That alone could confer a win as the moon shows up
the emotions very strongly.
The moon in the map of Harris is doing nothing positive. Trump has all the luck on his side at Nov 5, 2024 with the happy planet
jupiter making very close conjunction with Trump's sun, nodes and uranus, all in the tenth house, the house of both career &
public recognition. The powerful conjunction implies a high. rise in fame, fortune & promotion in his career. That appears to be the confirming transit that he will win.
Mars is working for him too, along with Neptune, can't remember the exact configurations but he's destined to win the election
imho.
Harris has strong transits working against her winning or even being the political opponent. She did not win one delegate, not
one Democrat voted for her. She & Pelosi, along with Obama, forced Biden to withdraw and Democrats are very angry at the way
she took over the nomination. Will Biden speak up, along with others during the Democratic Convention? Biden was dropped due
to his terrible showing in the debate with Trump but Harris is not popular at all, in the race for Democrat nominee, she was forced to
drop out without receiving a single delegate. Pluto showing in her chart with mercury square forming a T-square involving her moon.
This is not a time for advance but retreat & defeat. Saturn opposing venus another confirmation that her time is not good, she is not
popular and her approval ratings have dipped even below un-likeable Biden. Harris does have saturn moving through her tenth, that
refers to her prominence as the new democratic nominee but it's more of a frustrating, painful time and the opposite of jupiter
exuberance in Trump's chart.

Taking everything into consideration, , the prediction
I make is that Trump will be unbeatable no matter who his opponent is. If it's Harris, she will lose very very badly and even if she is
replaced during the convention, no other candidate will be better placed astrology-wise than Trump at the Nov 5th election.
Jupiter will win over any other transit when he is placed in such a formidable, winning house.

 

[waybread]

My reading of the transits and progressions on my linked thread (above) is that Trump's results look better than Harris's on Election Day.

Early voting begins in Pennsylvania on Sept 16, however; so it's not clear how well the old Election Day astrological start date still holds. It would be good to post some prognosticative methods using the September 16 date.

Jupiter in Cap (a placement we share!) are you thinking about 2020, or 2024?

When President Biden initially announced that he would seek re-election, he won the 2024 Democratic primaries. It happens, but would be unusual, for another candidate to challenge a sitting president. At the time, Harris was on the ticket as his running mate. When Biden recently announced he was stepping down, however, any candidate could have announced their candidacy. But, under party rules, there was a very narrow window of time to file. Harris did file, on time

Democrats seem newly energized by the Harris-Walz ticket. Harris quickly amassed sufficient pledged delegates to win the nomination, which was validated by an electronic roll call system on August 1-3. This nomination will be formalized next week at the Democratic National Convention.

Recent polls are showing Harris and Trump now statistically tied.
https://elections2024.thehill.com/national/harris-trump-general/
Whoever wins, there are enough retrograde planets on Election Day that I think it will take some time for the recounts and challenges to sort it all out.

 

[Racheal G]

so post the astrology

but
there's no comparison posted

https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/index.php?threads/kamala-harris-next-president.151001/
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My algorithm is different from yours. My algorithm is based on mathematical modeling, so I don’t have such kind of horoscope you want. If you don’t agree with my divination results, you can also use your own way to divination.

 

[Racheal G]

It hasn't been done here yet? I'll give it a shot as my work is almost completed & then I head home for the weekend.
I don't have the charts in front of me but I have looked at them not long ago & can highlight the points which form my
opinion on who I think will win the election.
Moon is in sunny sagg which happens to be the same moon position as Trump. Moon will be aligned with venus which
highlights the jubilant day for Trump with extremely happy energies. That alone could confer a win as the moon shows up
the emotions very strongly.
The moon in the map of Harris is doing nothing positive. Trump has all the luck on his side at Nov 5, 2024 with the happy planet
jupiter making very close conjunction with Trump's sun, nodes and uranus, all in the tenth house, the house of both career &
public recognition. The powerful conjunction implies a high. rise in fame, fortune & promotion in his career. That appears to be the confirming transit that he will win.
Mars is working for him too, along with Neptune, can't remember the exact configurations but he's destined to win the election
imho.
Harris has strong transits working against her winning or even being the political opponent. She did not win one delegate, not
one Democrat voted for her. She & Pelosi, along with Obama, forced Biden to withdraw and Democrats are very angry at the way
she took over the nomination. Will Biden speak up, along with others during the Democratic Convention? Biden was dropped due
to his terrible showing in the debate with Trump but Harris is not popular at all, in the race for Democrat nominee, she was forced to
drop out without receiving a single delegate. Pluto showing in her chart with mercury square forming a T-square involving her moon.
This is not a time for advance but retreat & defeat. Saturn opposing venus another confirmation that her time is not good, she is not
popular and her approval ratings have dipped even below un-likeable Biden. Harris does have saturn moving through her tenth, that
refers to her prominence as the new democratic nominee but it's more of a frustrating, painful time and the opposite of jupiter
exuberance in Trump's chart.

Taking everything into consideration, , the prediction
I make is that Trump will be unbeatable no matter who his opponent is. If it's Harris, she will lose very very badly and even if she is
replaced during the convention, no other candidate will be better placed astrology-wise than Trump at the Nov 5th election.
Jupiter will win over any other transit when he is placed in such a formidable, winning house.

As astrologers, no matter which one of us is correct, I think it is very meaningful as a way of interaction.

 

[Racheal G]

My reading of the transits and progressions on my linked thread (above) is that Trump's results look better than Harris's on Election Day.

Early voting begins in Pennsylvania on Sept 16, however; so it's not clear how well the old Election Day astrological start date still holds. It would be good to post some prognosticative methods using the September 16 date.

Jupiter in Cap (a placement we share!) are you thinking about 2020, or 2024?

When President Biden initially announced that he would seek re-election, he won the 2024 Democratic primaries. It happens, but would be unusual, for another candidate to challenge a sitting president. At the time, Harris was on the ticket as his running mate. When Biden recently announced he was stepping down, however, any candidate could have announced their candidacy. But, under party rules, there was a very narrow window of time to file. Harris did file, on time

Democrats seem newly energized by the Harris-Walz ticket. Harris quickly amassed sufficient pledged delegates to win the nomination, which was validated by an electronic roll call system on August 1-3. This nomination will be formalized next week at the Democratic National Convention.

Recent polls are showing Harris and Trump now statistically tied.
https://elections2024.thehill.com/national/harris-trump-general/
Whoever wins, there are enough retrograde planets on Election Day that I think it will take some time for the recounts and challenges to sort it all out.

It seems that you cannot give a clear prediction result.

 

[waybread]

It seems that you cannot give a clear prediction result.

Not yet, anyway; but there have been two recent presidential elections that also yielded different results in the popular vote vs. the Electoral College, and took a long time to get sorted out. Kerry v. Bush in 2000 and Clinton v. Trump in 2012.

 

[JUPITERASC]

My algorithm is different from yours. My algorithm is based on mathematical modeling, so I don’t have such kind of horoscope you want. If you don’t agree with my divination results, you can also use your own way to divination.

As astrologers, no matter which one of us is correct, I think it is very meaningful as a way of interaction.

It seems that you cannot give a clear prediction result.

a member posted the following clear prediction result

It hasn't been done here yet? I'll give it a shot as my work is almost completed & then I head home for the weekend. I don't have the charts in front of me but I have looked at them not long ago & can highlight the points which form my opinion on who I think will win the election.

Thank you

Moon is in sunny sagg which happens to be the same moon position as Trump. Moon will be aligned with venus which highlights the jubilant day for Trump with extremely happy energies. That alone could confer a win as the moon shows up the emotions very strongly. The moon in the map of Harris is doing nothing positive. Trump has all the luck on his side at Nov 5, 2024 with the happy planet jupiter making very close conjunction with Trump's sun, nodes and uranus, all in the tenth house, the house of both career & public recognition.

The powerful conjunction implies a high. rise in fame, fortune & promotion in his career. That appears to be the confirming transit that he will win. Mars is working for him too, along with Neptune, can't remember the exact configurations but he's destined to win the election imho. Harris has strong transits working against her winning or even being the political opponent. She did not win one delegate, not one Democrat voted for her. She & Pelosi, along with Obama, forced Biden to withdraw and Democrats are very angry at the way she took over the nomination.

Will Biden speak up, along with others during the Democratic Convention? Biden was dropped due to his terrible showing in the debate with Trump but Harris is not popular at all, in the race for Democrat nominee, she was forced to drop out without receiving a single delegate. Pluto showing in her chart with mercury square forming a T-square involving her moon. This is not a time for advance but retreat & defeat. Saturn opposing venus another confirmation that her time is not good, she is not popular and her approval ratings have dipped even below un-likeable Biden.

Harris does have saturn moving through her tenth, that refers to her prominence as the new democratic nominee but it's more of a frustrating, painful time and the opposite of jupiter exuberance in Trump's chart.
Taking everything into consideration, , the prediction I make is that Trump will be unbeatable no matter who his opponent is. If it's Harris, she will lose very very badly and even if she is replaced during the convention, no other candidate will be better placed astrology-wise than Trump at the Nov 5th election. Jupiter will win over any other transit when he is placed in such a formidable, winning house.

Interesting

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[JupiterinCap]

So, I studied the comparison charts of Harris, Trump and can confirm that my prediction that Trump will win to
be on point. He has a jupiter trine going on at the same time that jupiter conjunction with his sun, nodes, uranus in the
professional house of career, public observance; he has tremendous luck and tidings of joy at the election on Nov 5, 2024.
Whether it's Harris or a replacement, it will be almost impossible to beat Trump's exceptionally good transits.

 

[Diem11]

A unique idea occurred to me recently. Do the chart of Election Day and compare it to my natal chart.

The most significant aspect of the Election Day chart is the opposition between Jupiter and a triple conjunction of the Moon, Venus, and Pallas (elections, vote casting).

This opposition forms an exact T-square to my natal Sun.

I am NOT going to like the results of the Election. Now I know who is going to win!

 

[Osamenor]

A unique idea occurred to me recently. Do the chart of Election Day and compare it to my natal chart.

The most significant aspect of the Election Day chart is the opposition between Jupiter and a triple conjunction of the Moon, Venus, and Pallas (elections, vote casting).

This opposition forms an exact T-square to my natal Sun.

I am NOT going to like the results of the Election. Now I know who is going to win!

And how many other people are going to not like (or like) the results of the election? How do the election day transits align with their charts?

What if two people with virtually identical birth charts (it happens!) want to see opposite results? They'll get the same transits, but one will like the results and the other won't.

Furthermore, the results won't be in on election day. Preliminary results, yes, but they won't necessarily be the same as the final results.

That's not even remotely close to being a reliable way to predict the outcome of an election.

Not yet, anyway; but there have been two recent presidential elections that also yielded different results in the popular vote vs. the Electoral College, and took a long time to get sorted out. Kerry v. Bush in 2000 and Clinton v. Trump in 2012.

It was Gore vs. Bush in 2000, not Kerry. Kerry ran against Bush in 2004.

 

[leomoon]

This Astrologer used charts for each month of the Profections for each Candidate (once she realized Biden would opt out in place of Harris, she gives us a few months of Harris here
Her ultimate choice in the end as to who will be elected? Likely Kamala Harris. (although I have seen and posted at least 3 or 4 of these predictions from others, they all say the same thing that November will be court challenges by Trump into December. We will not know until these challenges are determined or settled in court more than likely.

Kamala’s is in a peak period from Spirit on Level 1, 2 and 4 on Election Day; her peak periods only contain her benefic of sect, which means that these periods are overtly positive for her. On level 3, she is in a cardinal cool-down, which contains her luminaries. All of this looks very auspicious for her and supports a fortuitous moment in her career such as winning the presidency.

https://www.catherineurban.com/blog/2024-presidential-election-addendum-kamala-harris

 

[leomoon]

and Donald Trump's Profection rulers up to and during the Elections into 2025:
She also delineates his 2024 SR chart and progressions for this year -

Overall, this solar return does not seem to describe a win. Instead, it seems to describe tremendous difficulty in his personal life, spanning from his slew of legal and financial troubles (more on that in just a moment) and potential marital issues – which Melania’s absence from his campaign certainly spurs further speculation. We see a lot of emphasis on the 12th house of private battles, secrets, and plots. With a Cancer rising, however, the themes from the SR could approach quickly and then fade after a few months. A quick peak at his solar return for 2025 seems to carry over many of these 2nd, 12th, 7th and 9th house themes but reveals a Sun conjunct the midheaven, supporting Trump’s rise in influence in 2025 despite mounting personal problems

https://www.catherineurban.com/blog...ntial-election-in-2024-according-to-astrology

 

[waybread]

I am having trouble finding exact details (still wiped out with Covid)but I believe Pennsylvania is the state with earliest voting, Sept. 15. The exact time may vary by county. Hopefully someone with more energy than I have can prognosticate for that date.

ALSO if anyone does primary directions, these may be the most accurate method.

 

[JupiterinCap]

Solar arcs are a good source of prediction + they are working in Trump's favor at the election on Nov 5, 2024, again, nothing much
except mess + problems with Harris.

 

[waybread]

I may have the early voting date wrong. I think it's actually North Carolina or Sept 6, but this is the date for mailing absentee ballots. It would probably take a few days for voters to get theirs.

 

[JupiterinCap]

What does the beginning of the early vote have to do with who will win the election? You can draw up an event chart for when the early voting starts but that is not going to tell you anything about either candidate; just the mood of the people + the state of the nation.

No getting around it; you must study the maps of the two presidential candidates + decide who will win that way; using many different predictive methods or your own personal preference. The three main methods are transits, solar arc directions + progressed chart with both natal + transits combined as progressions only work in contact with the original map.

Harris has such bad transits, solar arc directions involving saturn, pluto to such a terrible degree that it's dubious if she will even last until the election. They dumped Bident after his incompetent & big failure in the first debate with Trump + Harris will likely be switched out after her first debate with Trump. He will orange crush her with her record as V.P. where she's been declared the worst veep in history. Pluto higher-ups in the party wrongly assumed that nobody could be worse then Biden; they were wrong, Harris can't even defend her complete failure to secure the border & pluto will ensure there is a gigantic power struggle in her life. Apart from the on-going T-square involving pluto, her moon in aries and her sun, merucry in libra, there is a moon, saturn on solar arc M.C. Whether she lasts to the Nov election or not, she is not poised for anything but failure, defeat & possibly the end of her political career for pluto is the great eliminator.

Trump's rising in the polls, rising within every group that traditionally never votes republican like black males, independents & moderate democrats confirmed with the jupiter factor in his 10TH house of career + forming a trine to his original jupiter placement in his natal map. We can see the causual astrology influence on why Trump will easily win the election in Nov + earthly events such as Bobby Kennedy endorsing him only prove the point.

 

[Osamenor]

Harris has such bad transits, solar arc directions involving saturn, pluto to such a terrible degree that it's dubious if she will even last until the election.

Transits and solar arc directions involving Pluto and Saturn can also be a time to take in power. For example, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was first elected to Congress as Pluto was crossing her ascendant.

Whether "difficult" transits are more likely to be empowering or just plain difficult depends on how prepared the native is to handle them, and on what phase their Moon is in by secondary progression. If the progressed Moon is in a dark phase, especially a waning dark phase, those transits stand the greatest chance of being just plain difficult. If it's in a very bright phase, especially full or waxing first quarter to gibbous, that's when the transits are most likely to be empowering.

AOC was in either a waxing or full moon progressed phase (I'd have to look it up again to remember which) when Pluto crossed her ascendant and she got elected. Kamala Harris is in a full moon phase.

Based on that, she's much more likely to be coming into power than defeat.

Of course, the big picture is more complex. Point being, all the Pluto/Saturn stuff isn't a reliable indicator that she'll lose.