Yahweh and Asherah

[rahu]

"you googled a nice list of references but none of these deal with the fact that Yahweh could not be the creator god if Yahweh was a consort of asherah in the 11th century b.c. Yahweh could not have spoken to moses on mt Sinai as the war with the kings of Israel and sumeria occurred around 1000bc. Yahweh was a cult god at that time as shown by his association with asherah"


the yahwist revision of history is shown throughout the books of chronicles and kings.the yahwist revision is always written first and ,is elaborate than the eloist version.
this is seen in genesis. the convoluted creation story of adam and eve
(there is no example in nature of the male giving birth to the female,this was a political ploy),but following the yahwist version ,the eloist version simply says god created man and woman.

the story of david and Samuel also shows well edited examples of 2 versions.
initially when david approached Samuel, smuel already knew twoof davids btoyjrs as they had fought for him.saul knew of the house of Jesse from which david came.samuel gets david to try on his armor, but david says the armor is too encumbering so he takes it of and goes to face goliath with his simple sling.

but after david allegedly kills goliath and is returning with his head, saul cries out "who s that person" referring to david.he is told his name is david and he is of the house of jesse.

so saul seems to have totally forgot who david was. this s the eloist addition which shows david was not on intimate relations with saul as the first version implies.
in addtion the yahwist version has saul giving david his daughter inmarriage, yet this follows with the elois version of saul tying o kill david as a threat to his sovereignty

and of course the major revision that give david the credit for killing goliath instead of Elhanan

http://ggreenberg.tripod.com/ancientne/101david.html

Coincidentally, in the version crediting Elhanan with killing Goliath, David is already king, and Elhanan is a member of David’ elite fighting group known as “The Thirty.”

The Elhanan version also retains some of the original mythical flavor of the contest. It is one of a sequence of four short stories about individual members of “The Thirty” killing four different giants. Interestingly, in the introductory verse to these four stories about Elhanan and the others, we are told that “David waxed faint,” had grown tired.

Although Elhanan’s father is called Jaareoregim in the verses about Elhanan’s victory over Goliath, the listing of the members of David’s “Thirty” calls the father Dodo. Since the other three giant killers also belong to “The Thirty,” this is the clearly same Elhanan.

rahu

 

[rahu]

Conclusions I have come to: messiah fever (Jewish variety) was at its hottest when Rome was destroying the country. Everyone wanted a messiah. A military leader. Bar Kochba was the obvious candidate. Look him up, it'll be easier to figure out why. It may also make the 'once and future king' messiah story, a/k/a either a reincarnation of David or one of his descendants, a LOT more understandable.



So is it possible that some radically pacificistic young man with shamanic inclinations put his hat in the ring for messiahship? Seems so to me. Also note that making a claim to being messsiah was in no way against Jewish law. Judaism has had thousands of messiahs, it basically means you have a God-appointed job.

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messiah fever (Jewish variety) was at its hottest when Rome was destroying the country. Everyone wanted a messiah. A military leader

this is doubtful as the zealots ,the most militaristic of the Jewish opposition groups, were founded by a rabbi in galilee names judas, around 0 ad.
not everyone wanted a military leader .some wanted a law giver, some wanted a righteous king and some wanted a military figure.
rahu


So is it possible that some radically pacificistic young man with shamanic inclinations put his hat in the ring for messiahship?

you sound like a evangelical



matthew 10:34

33But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in heaven. 34Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn ‘A man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.…


rahu

 

[waybread]

rahu, I've concluded reluctantly that there's no point in discussing this subject further with you. Too bad, because I find the folk religion of ancient Israel to be really interesting. But you've got your mind so firmly made up, that you are not going to change it based upon new (to you) evidence.

 

[david starling]

Waybread, since you've done your own research, what do you think of the Millennialstar synopsis I posted the link for? Is it accurate, reliable, inclusive--in your informed opinion?
Rahu, thanks for cluing me in to something I had known nothing about. I suspect Astrology was one of the casualties of the Deuterists, along with respect for the Feminine-principle.

 

[Oddity]

you sound like a evangelical
rahu

You've got to be joking.

 

[david starling]

You've got to be joking.

Siriusly!? Amen to that!

 

[david starling]

I've found that concentrating on Astrology helps fend off psychic-intrusion. Especially if you have a strong 1st House.

 

[rahu]

as archeological evidence has shown that Yahweh is not a creator god, the real question is ,as Yahweh is a imposter,how could millions of people over 3000 years fall for such a metaphysical ruse.

the astral plane is accessible to both disembodied souls and to psychological input from living souls. black magic uses this simultaneity to manipulation beliefs and create false spiritual impressions.

the following example gives an opportunity to see how black magicians use the innate nodal structure of the time/space to affect a persons consciousness yet give an impression that higher forces/"god" are at play


keeping the quantum perspective ,it seems the black magicians work by placing "thought forms "in to the astral plane/ fixations of reality. though one would suppose that the quantum matrix will be neutral or unbiased, this is not the case when a black magic spell is set.


the human brain's frequency include theta 4-8 Hz and alpha at 8-14 Hz6 .
the earth's frequency is about 7.8 Hz as measured by nasa, though this rate is said to be rising.
as the brain and the earth have overlapping frequencies, the earth is transparent to human brain waves at 7hz. this means that human thoughts can go through the earth unimpeded. this frequency is also the one that many aquatic mammals, whales and porpoises communicate on.

I believe that 7 Hz is also one of the frequencies of the astral plane.

so the inherent karmic astral dynamics also resonate to the human experiences. this is why both astral entities and living humans can influence ones dream states at the same time. this is the core of black magic. these people can implant images and thought in your dreams that you may believe have a divine nature or origin, when in fact you are only being manipulated


apparently the easiest spell is to put a negative field around your aura, so when you produce negative thoughts , the negative field zaps you .and the slightest negative thought/feeling is all it takes. if one is under attack, then remaining in a positive frame of mind is the safest alternative. and more importantly(from the black magicians point of view) you have harmed yourself.

more complex attacks use the astral plane. again one would think the astral is objective, but saints or demon or the infinite can be reached .

a astral dream encounter a few month back may illustrate these concepts

I had magical episode where I was being lead to make romantic advances on a casual friend that would unleash the green hate of her admirer on me.

the reason was that my brother had spread word on the street that I was a federal drug agent. the drug dealing mossad kabbalists black magicians tried to bring my demise in a manner that would make it seemed I brought this on myself.

A casual acquaintance began to try to “seduce me” on the astral. One of my guardians face replaced the astral beauty before me. I was quite struck with love for my guardian as my guardians had never been this personal since that other life.
my guardian only comes when I am in danger.

here a conscious being projected a sexual attraction in my astral dream state, very convincingly as she was young and quite beautiful.
but on the spirit plane one of my guardians saw the danger and interceded with her dream image and changed it to his.

That my guardian had to express such an emotional approach to get my attention, in the long fun, showed the level of astral/magical penetration that was being applied.

here the inter penetration of conscious beings and spirit beings coincided on my astral dream state

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The book of changes informed me that if I went on I would be attacked or killed.
Quite dramatic for a relationship that was less that casual ‘
As time when on ,I consulted the book about her and it always turned up dangerous or charmingly successful.

the I ching is very accurate on describing the vibrations on the astral plane. but black magicians have the know how to cross up the primal astral plane and make the I ching give false answers.

again magicians can use their consciousness to affect the unconscious astral planes

This had never happened to me before and as time when on I thought these alternating hexagrams were a function of her disassociated personality .
but was mistaken.

Knowing her association with ritual magicians, I was quite cautious. But the seriousness and power that was focused on me became clear ,one day when I was deep in thought about this strange good/evil dynamic I was sensing,
I had bent down to tie my shoe and when I rose abruptly I fell unconscious long enough to collapse on a marble floor. But as It was just extreme hyperventilation, with seconds I was up and assessing the pain on my skull. Nothing real serious but it was a concussion as I had periodic balance problems for 2 days.

So at a moment of deep reflection about this woman, I almost seriously injured myself.

So much of my knowledge has been given by sight rather that research. As the following will show…......

On my way back across the bay into the eas tbay. I boarded a bus, fresh from having bashed my head over the young woman, that now gets on the bus I have just got on . expecting a pleasant conversation she subtly motions to the seat behind me where a large and dark individual is sitting. I had actually notice his slight scowl when I first boarded,

The pair said absolutely nothing. The young lady and I got off at he same stop after the dark man has already exited.
We had been excellent friends for a couple of months so this enforced silence the entire time was too much for her and she made a quick exit into a fast food joint.

So I was shown the dynamic and looking back someone had mentioned she had a big”friend” and I should watch out.

but I knew for sure I was under psychic/magical attack.
I assume the relationship was submissive / dominant and i told her later ,that she had a master. i also suggested he was a Kabbalistic magician because it is the kabalistic mossad that I have often criticized and are in control of the drug dealing in this area.
. he was not her boy friend as I has met her current beau and her last beau,

Another astral seduction dream was stopped by my second quardian. his appearance was only at the most serious of times. in the same manner he broke up a seduction dream by her.

again my guardians from the spirit plane interacted on the astral dream state to make me see what I did not understand.


Still the book of changes continued to alternate between extreme danger and great fortune. She was a pagan so she gave me insights in omens and talismans to a degree .she was young but well read and I enjoyed listening to her ideas.

But It became apparent her paganism was a front because she would show only a intellectual connection to the various roman and Greek gods. I was straight forward and told her about the dreams and the omen meaning. she never commented. I know that there are “pagan” and other earth/racial cults that are using kabballistic knowledge..
This was my suspicion because only a structured magician or witch could sustain such a complex mental control/spell on the astral.

Our “cigarette break” encounters continued through the months .another sexual advance on the astral was intercepted by a soulmate I had not been with for years. The astral seduction was stopped by my soulmate . But again very unusual .the sexual point of this astral magic was sharp. It had been my soulmate who could feel in her ”guts” when someone was trying to control me. this soulmate is on the earth plane so here she picked my danger up on the conscious astral and made me realize a danger was at hand.

I continued to be open about these dreams with this young lady and she said nothing to dissuade me or encourage my thoughts .another astral dream occurred as I “forced” a hug on someone, almost a generic hug, and it was the young woman. She accepted my hug and held out her arms as if to say what else can I do . and I now saw that she was not alone but was being controlled on the astral by a witch or more correctly the young lady’s Mistress.
I had over estimated the value of the dark man. He was apparently just a “enforcer” for the coven/cell/temple as this witch was in charge.

the "attack" was actually being orchestrated by a third person ,the witch who was obviously part of the mossad kabbalist drug dealers attempting to harm me.
the black magic is augmented here by the "enslavement" of the young girl to be used to entrap me emotionally so that the dark man would be incensed and harm me.
the psychological manipulations of black magic insure the black magicians themselves have no blood on their hands/karma.

In another dream I turned around and saw this kabbalistic witch and I knew this was who was controlling the dynamics. she looked up and saw me ,then quickly turned away ...dream over..

I am not knowledgeable of any black magic techniques in this life time. my ability to see the kabbalists witch, I attribute to natural magic, that is I believe that in a culture that nurtures these abilities ,everyone can consciously use their astral/dream abilities. but in our culture, ruled by the fraud of science, we are programmed to ignore any dynamics of the astral/spirit plane. this is really what the Florentine enlightenment was created for. develop a world view in which people would have no word or concepts to see the obvious cultural machinations of the kabballist black magicians.


Another sexual approach came but this time my friend had black hair and some one was behind her. It is interesting but this young woman had never said anything about these dreams,not word of response ever but when I started to tell her about the dream ,before I could mention the hair color ,she said,” I had black hair didn’t I “. Her hair is blond. the black haired woman was the kabbalah witch, who I assumed was planning some evil encounter with me as she had seen I could see her from a previous dream.

Then a dream came when I was caressing the young girls hair and she didn’t move. She was acknowledging my touch without giving up any spirit of freedom. again very strange for a person I hardly knew and had nothing but simpler conversations with.
In a dream she approached me and kissed me, the kiss of friendship rather than romantic lust. she is a bisexual pagan so I didn’t take the kiss for anything but friendship . at this point I began to feel that she and I were in fact establishing a respect for each other.

I think this is why the next dream was of her mistress but I knew it was a falsehood. So this witch is very powerful, she can project her own aura through others on the astral.

Finally there was recently a sexually dream between us, very subtle and more spirit than lust but I realized I had to stop our chance encounters.

This young ladies soul is being drained away. The best black magic is the magic you have to make others soil their souls for your advantage.

Interesting ending as a saw her Mistress, in the flesh, sitting in the break area. This young woman is introverted. she tends to dress demurely but
she was wearing a dark orange maybe red see through blouse and see through pantloons, like a harem outfit. Quite a show for an assistant manager. but I knew then for sure she would always be a slave of the kabbalah witch
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This dream attack by the black magicians was to protect the workings of their Rothschild mossad/cia drug operations

your every mental thought affects the quantum plane. and as every particle of matter and every frequency of vibration are connected quantumly, thoughts directly affect the thoughts of other. in addition as the quantum/node plane fixates reality, then thoughts can change the physical manifestation of reality too. This is the dynamics that black magic uses.
For instance a thought form can be directed at one, that will “hover” around the individual until a contradiction in the individual personality occurs, allowing the negative thought form to affect the individual or the surrounding reality through the thought forms they have created.


A few years back, Saturn was conjunct the north node, black magicians attempted to kill me. It failed because by using the white magic of knowledge, I was able to alter my behavior and put myself out of harms way because I knew this transit of Saturn would allow the black magicians thoughts to reach me.

When there are nodal transits, negative thoughts in one mind allows the negative intention of black magicians to penetrate and affect you. This is why it is important when in nodal tension to keep your though positive and coherent, that is you thoughts and words must be the same as your actions and intentions.

The black magicians have thousands of years of knowledge of spells and ritual actions that can affect others. But it is one’s lack of coherent thoughts that permit the black magicians thought to harm one.

Ultimately it is selfish thoughts and desires that are the weakness that black magicians thought use to penetrate and alter your reality.

rahu

 

[rahu]

I am very interested in the facts, which is why I question conspiracy theories that do not seem to fit the facts. Which is why I think it would be laughable were it not so tragic for you to argue that Saudi Arabia is fighting a proxy war for Israel, given how firmly entrenched anti-Jewish Wahhabism is in the Saudi kingdom. You will only find belief in an "unholy alliance" between the Saudis and Zionism in conspiracy blogs.

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Israel and Saudi Arabia: Best Friends Forever (Zionism/the Rothschilds Created Both States)


.To understand the relationship between Israel and Saudi Arabia, you first need to know how Saudi Arabia become a country

British helped form the kingdom during the 1920s:

“The defeat of the Ottoman Empire by British imperialism in World War One, left three distinct authorities in the Arabian peninsula: Sharif of Hijaz: Hussain bin Ali of Hijaz (in the west), Ibn Rashid of Ha’il (in the north) and Emir Ibn Saud of Najd (in the east) and his religiously fanatical followers, the Wahhabis

“Finally, in September 1921, the British unleashed Ibn Saud on Ha’il which officially surrendered in November 1921. It was after this victory the British bestowed a new title on Ibn Saud. He was no longer to be 'Emir of Najd and Chief of its Tribes' but 'Sultan of Najd and its Dependencies.' Ha’il had dissolved into a dependency of the Empire’s Sultan of Najd.”By March 1924, the British realized that Hussain would not back down and accept a Zionist state in Palestine, so they unleashed Ibn Saud and his armies on Hijazi territory:

“Within weeks the forces of Ibn Saud and his Wahhabi followers began to administer what the British foreign secretary, Lord Curzon called the “final kick” to Sharif Hussain and attacked Hijazi territory.

“By September 1924, Ibn Saud had overrun the summer capital of Sharif Hussain, Ta’if … In Ta’if, Ibn Saud’s Wahhabis committed their customary massacres, slaughtering women and children as well as going into mosques and killing traditional Islamic scholars.[18]

“They captured the holiest place in Islam, Mecca, in mid-October 1924. Sharif Hussain was forced to abdicate and went to exile to the Hijazi port of Akaba.”​

After losing Mecca, Hussain had to flee and lose his entire territory to Ibn Saud, ancestor of the current Saudi lineage:

“Sharif Hussain was forced out of Akaba, a port he had liberated from the Ottoman Empire during the Arab Revolt… Ibn Saud had begun his siege of Jeddah in January 1925 and the city finally surrendered in December 1925 bringing to an end over 1000 years of rule by the Prophet Muhammad’s descendants.

“The British officially recognized Ibn Saud as the new King of Hijaz in February 1926 with other European powers following suit within weeks. The new unified Wahhabi state was rebranded by the Empire in 1932 as the 'Kingdom of Saudi Arabia' (KSA).”​

The Saudis were shaped by Zionism even before the actual creation of Israel as a nation on May 14th, 1948!

There are also various claims around that the Saudi family itself may be Jewish, although, to be fair, these claims are hard to substantiate.


He includes a quote he states is from then King Faisal Al-Saud on September 17th, 1969 in the Washington Post:
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“WE, THE SAUDI FAMILY, are cousins of the Jews: we entirely disagree with any Arab or Muslem Authority which shows any antagonism to the Jews; but we must live together with them in peace. Our country (ARABIA) is the Fountain head from where the first Jew sprang, and his descendants spread out all over the world.”​

There is other evidence that Muhammad bin Saud (founder of modern day the Saudi lineage) and Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab (the founder of the strict Wahhabism sect of Islam) may have been Jewish.

This DIA (US Defense Intelligence Agency) document from September 24th, 2002, entitled “The Birth of Al-Wahabi Movement And it’s Historic Roots”, states:

“The original Arabic sheikhs of Najd as well as the scientific resources, confirm that Muhammad bin ‘Abd-al-Wahab is from a Jewish family from “AI-Dawnamah” in Turkey. The Dawnamah here refers to those Jews who have declared their Islam for the purpose of harming Islam and save themselves from the chase by the Ottoman Sultans.”​

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Madsen also refers to a book called The Dönmeh Jews by D. Mustafa Turan, who claims that Wahhab’s grandfather, Tjen Sulayman, was actually Tjen Shulman, a member of the Jewish community of Basra, Iraq.


So much for the history of Israel and Saudi Arabia. Fast forward to today, and it is easy to spot the interconnection of the Zionist regime and the corrupt, human-rights abusing Kingdom. The redacted and classified 28 pages of the 9/11 report has been in the news a lot recently.
Israel’s fingerprints are all over the attack (you can see a sampling of the evidence in my article 9/11 was an Inside and Outside Job: Remembering the Israel 9/11 Role), while Saudi Arabia is also deeply implicated – for starters, 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis.



If the US exposed the Saudi role in 9/11, that would necessarily also include evidence implicating Israel.

Besides, if the Saudis were threatened with exposure, they have another ace up their sleeve: they could also react by exposing their co-conspirators, Israel and the US.



You would think that Saudi Arabia might differ widely and wildly from Israel on the subject of Palestine, but you would be wrong.


Israel and Saudi Arabia regularly help each other, fund each other and trade with each other. They just do it subtly or secretly.

For instance, in 2015 Saudi King Salman helped finance the election campaign of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (we know this thanks to the Panama Papers leak).

Saudi Arabia buys drones from Israel, but does it through the conduit state of South Africa to try to hide the transaction.

AntiMedia recently reported that Israel and Saudi Arabia cooperate in military efforts, and that some of the islands in recent Red Sea deal (between Saudi Arabia and Egypt) are being used by both nations for joint military training.


Israel and Saudi Arabia have been closely connected even before they both became official nations in 1948 and 1932 respectively.

Both Israel and Saudi Arabia were up-to-the-shoulders-deep in orchestrating and executing the 9/11 false flag attack. The 2 countries regularly trade together, fund each other, and militarily train together.

It is vital to understand their strategic relationship if we are to make any sense of the chaos and geopolitics in the Middle East, as well as trying to stop WW3 from breaking out.

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[rahu]

Genesis 321 states that : And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the son of Haran, his son's son, and Sarai his daughter-in-law, his son Abram's wife; and they went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan; and they came unto Haran, and dwelt there.

It is clear they family came from the Sumerian(chaldees) city of ur.

The Sumerian civilization ended about 2000-2100 bc . Abraham is dated to about this period by many scholars. But it is certainly plausible that terah left ur at the fall of the city of ur3, which ended the Sumerian civilization



The Ras-Shamra texts

http://www.apologeticspress.org/rr/reprints/Ras-shamra.pdf

’In the spring of 1928, Brahim, a Syrian farmer, was plowing his field when his plow struck a slab of stone. Though initially assuming it to be a flagstone, he noticed that it had square corners. Upon extracting it from the soil, Brahim discovered a huge, underground vault containing vases, jugs, tablets, gold,silver, and pieces of ivory. When this Syrian peasant began to dispose of the artifacts, word reached thelocal police, who notified French authorities in Beirut (Eisenberg, 1959, p. 99). Charles Virolleaud, anexpert in cuneiform

The Ugaritic texts included a variety of scripts: Sumero-Akkadian syllabic cuneiform, the native alphabetic cuneiform, Egyptian hieroglyphs, Hittite hieroglyphs, and the Agean syllabary. An even largervariety of languages is represented: Sumerans, Akkadian, Hurrian, Hittite, Egyptian, Ugaritic, and whateverlanguage(s) turn out to be involved in Agean syllabary’



The city of Ugarit was an ancient port. The largest cache of bronze weapons ever found were among the ruins. The most important finds were dictionaries and lexicon that compiled translations of the various ancient language. So the Sumerian language as well as the akkadian language are well know and understood.



The first covenant with god came when abram’s named was changed to Abraham. And saria name was changed to sarah.

Sarai is a Sumerian word meaning princess. Terah is a Sumerian word meaning omen priest.

Sarah was Abrahams half sister. If sarah was a princess then Abraham was also of royal blood. It is interesting that once again the yahwist propangandist do not list terah wife.as terah was a priest ,she had to be a high priestess. That they were all of royal blood is implicit in the fact that Abraham and sarah were half siblings. The kings and queens of Sumerian and of Egypt until the late 18 dynastry were always half siblings’



Nannar/sin’s city was harran. Harran is an interesting city. In addition to Abrahams dead brother being named harran, harran was an exact miniature of the city of UR in Sumerian. Harran even had a canal from the river passing through harran just as at Ur, with the city divided in exactly the same jurisdictions.

Abraham was clearly a Sumerian and of royal blood



rahu

the story of Abraham gives another rinsight to the levite yahwist attempt to distort the history of the Jews to suit their need to fallaciously elevate Yahweh to a omnipotent creator god.



as shown above Abraham was of royal Sumerian blood. the levite yahwist had to show that Abraham was a lowly nomad with no divine connects. so as throughout the torah,there are two stories to many episodes. here the yahwist could not totally fabricate a story like the death of king Ahab and the false attribution of the killing of goliath to david from the real hero who killed goliath ,Elhanan.

the story of Abraham was too well known in antiquity by too many different groups fort he yahwist to simply make up a story that ignored the royal status of Abraham.

so they added the story to genius In Genesis that Abraham himself says, "My father was a wandering Aramaean." this is attempted to make Abraham nothing more than a wandering nomad and patriarch of a group of shepherds at best. this is a feeble attempt by the yahwist propagandist to turn a Sumerian royalty into to a common nomad.

when Abraham went to Egypt, it is claimed that Sarah's beauty was noticed by agents of the king and the king sent for Sarah and intended to marry her. this ep[osde could not be erased by the Yahwist propagandist .

this episode shows the royal nature of Abraham and sarah. does one think for a moment that the king of Egypt would have a man looking over the nomadic visitors and pluck a beauty(sarah was over 65 years of age?) to add to his wives.

this is ludicrous. kings in ancient times married royalty. they married foreign princess' for dynastic treaties. the only way the king would have married Sarah is if she was royalty as her Sumerian name, saria-princess, indicates.

here again we learn that Abraham and sarah are husband and wif and brother and 1/2 sister. this was the most esteemed marriage in ancient sumeria and the region .a marriage to a half sister took presence over even a marriage to a full sister. full sibling marriages were not the norm for royalty in ancient times till the 18th Egyptian dynasty.

so despite the yahwist propagandist desire to equate Abraham with a nomadic patriarch, Abraham and sarah were of royal Sumerian blood.

another instance that shows the true nature of Abraham takes place in genesis 14. 1 ,1-10

And it came to pass in the days of Amraphel king of Shinar, Arioch king of Ellasar, Chedorlaomer king of Elam, and Tidal king of nations, that they made war with Bera king of Sodom, Birsha king of Gomorrah, Shinab king of Admah, Shemeber king of Zeboiim, and the king of Bela (that is, Zoar).

The four kings of the cities in the region of Sodom and Gomorrah rebeled against the confederation of five kings of nations ruling over them.

the outcome was the defeat of the 4 kings of Sodom and Gomorrah.
after which lot,abraham's nephew, and his family were take into captivity by the conquering kings.

Abraham rounds up this servant and chases after the retreating kings and defeats them in a stealthy night encounter. how could a wandering nomad defeat 5 kings who had just destroyed the 4 kings of cities in sodom and Gomorrah ? the bible states he had 318 servants trained in warfare. how are 318 infantry going to defeat the rmies of 5 kings? obviously Abraham was not a nomadic wanderer, he had to have more men and better trained than just 318

genesis 14:4,15-17
. He divided his forces against them by night: Abram had military wisdom. Using the clever tactic of a night attack with his army split into two groups, he succeeded in rescuing Lot and recovering all the plunder (all the goods) seized by the partnership of the five kings.

it simply inconceivable that 318 men could defeat the armies of 5 kings.

zecharia stichin provides a answer. Abraham was not just a nomadic patriarch but the had a full army under hhis command. sitchin mentions a Hebrew word( which I do not recall,(nor do I have a copy of sitchins books presently), the translated word is for a cavalry of up to 600 camel mounted soldiers. so the truth is Abraham didn't just have 318 to conquer 5 kings, but the most likely had a virtual army head by a cavalry of 600.but such a immense military presence would not reflect the levite yahwist fabrication of Abraham as a nomadic patriarch.

so again as through out the torah the yahwist propagandists create a fallacious history to support a fallacious creator god Yahweh.
the sole reason is too supplant the mother goddess and institute a kingship of tyranny which is arising again in the modern state of Israel since the rabbinate is nearly all kabbalist now..

rahu

 

[rahu]

I am very interested in the facts, which is why I question conspiracy theories that do not seem to fit the facts. Which is why I think it would be laughable were it not so tragic for you to argue that Saudi Arabia is fighting a proxy war for Israel, given how firmly entrenched anti-Jewish Wahhabism is in the Saudi kingdom. You will only find belief in an "unholy alliance" between the Saudis and Zionism in conspiracy blogs.

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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/0...eals-the-secret-relation-of-saudi-and-israel/

Saudi Twitter Activist “Mujtahid” reveals the secret relation of Saudi and Israel

Mujtahid is the fake name of saudi freethinker that has a good connections among Saudi officials, Mujtahid recently revealed new evidences of Saudi – Israeli secret relations.
He said in the Twitter: “The Trip of Anwar Eshqi to Israel was planned by Royal bureau. The ultimate goal was to create a better situation for electing Mohammed Bin Salman as the new King of Saudi Arabia.”
In another tweet he says: “some stupid guy gave a list of Israeli Spies to Mohammed bin nayif, but shortly after this, the list owner arrested and tortured while the spies are working as they did.”
“Bin nayif has a better relation with Israel, compering to Mohammed bin Salman, but they keep it secret so the official relation between Saudi and Israel will never be better in public.” He added in another tweet

 

[rahu]

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Originally Posted by JUPITERASC
- Philologist John Marco Allegro one of the world's most renowned scholars
in the field of semitic languages
member of Research Committee studying/translating Dead Sea Scrolls

re: early Christians - where they got beliefs
ALLEGRO found certain names, places and formulas in The Bible refer directly to the true origins of Christianity
which wasn't an original religion
but an off-shoot of a fertility cult surrounding the fly-agaric mushroom
and the mushroom culture of Ancient Sumer
THE SACRED MUSHROOM AND THE CROSS http://disinfo.com/2011/11/jesus-was-a-mushroom/

The scrolls written around or shortly before the time of Jesus
give insight into religious life and thought of a Jewish sect
based at Qumran by the Dead Sea usually identified as Essenes.
Allegro believed the scrolls could help us understand the common origin of three religions – Judaism, Christianity and Islam
ALLEGRO had published the sections of text allotted to him in academic journals as soon as he had prepared them
volume 5 official series DISCOVERIES IN THE JUDAEAN DESERT OF JORDAN
ready for the press by early 1960s.
ALLEGRO continually campaigned for the publication of all scroll texts.
However, his colleagues took a different approach, and little else appeared until 1991. http://www.johnallegro.org/

JOHN MARCO ALLEGRO born in London 17 February 1923 died 17 February 1988

http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-...ars-ago-003159

Israeli town of Yavneh had thriving drug culture 3,000 years ago

Archaeologists have discovered traces of hallucinogenic substances used over 3,000 years by the Philistines, revealing an ancient drug culture that is believed to have revolved around spiritual rituals

The research team identified molecules from plants belonging to the Hyoscyamus family, which were preserved in olive oil in their original form. Hyoscyamus plants were historically used for their psychoactive properties in ‘magic brews’ and could elicit visual hallucinations, as well as a sensation of flight. The plant was sometimes combined with other plants to create concoctions used for anesthetics. The findings constitute the oldest known ritual use of the intoxicating Hyoscyamus plant.

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[rahu]

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/m/205a721a-49da-3a49-bf2f-a6d86886f71b/ss_incredible-discovery-of.html

Incredible discovery of intact female figurine from neolithic era in Turkey

Nine thousand years ago in Turkey, a large settlement called Çatalhöyük thrived for more than a millennium. Full of densely packed mud brick houses covered in paintings and symbolic decorations, its population hovered around 5,000. That made it one of the biggest settlements of its era, somewhere between an outsized village and tiny city. Now, archaeologists excavating there have discovered a rare, intact statuette of a woman buried carefully with a valuable piece of obsidian. Figurines resembling this one, with large breasts, belly, and buttocks, have been found throughout the Anatolian region. But this is one of the only intact examples ever found.

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[rahu]

Now netanyahu is playing he's god. He told the Italians that the severe earthquake was god's revenge on voting for the UNESCO resolution against Israel. He's ready thrown out all agreements on a Palestinians home land, since the Balfour Declaration out the window, so what's the big fuss now.
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[rahu]

Now netanyahu is playing he's god. He told the Italians that the severe earthquake was god's revenge on voting for the UNESCO resolution against Israel. He's ready thrown out all agreements on a Palestinians home land, since the Balfour Declaration out the window, so what's the big fuss now.
rahu

He's already thrown out all agreements on a Palestinians home land, since the Balfour Declaration out the window, so what's the big fuss now.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/admin/


Israeli ministers okay draft bill to legalize Jewish settlements on private Palestinian land


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[david starling]

He's already thrown out all agreements on a Palestinians home land, since the Balfour Declaration out the window, so what's the big fuss now.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/admin/


Israeli ministers okay draft bill to legalize Jewish settlements on private Palestinian land


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The U.S. had this concept of "Manifest Destiny" which included taking California from Mexico. The real question is what's Israel's Manifest Destiny include? Clearly, the Golan heights, and possibly ALL of what would be the boundaries of a "Palestinian State". I doubt it includes Jordan though.

 

[rahu]

The U.S. had this concept of "Manifest Destiny" which included taking California from Mexico. The real question is what's Israel's Manifest Destiny include? Clearly, the Golan heights, and possibly ALL of what would be the boundaries of a "Palestinian State". I doubt it includes Jordan though.

I think you are missing the point, the balfour declaration was the first preliminary legal statement by the british that a state should be created for the jews of the world. it is the base of all other legal documents aimed at implementing this. it states categorically that there is to be a Palestinian state along with a jewish state. all negotiation on this subject have included a Palestinian state. the united nations which implemented the state of Israel also mandated a Palestinian state. the only way the state of Israel could come into existence was with a Palestinian state included.

there is no manifest destiny concept here, all was legally made clear in 1917, a Jewish state and a Palestinian state. the likud party and netayahu through the assassination of itzak rabin have created a fascist state of mind and have ignored history to grab all of the disputed lands.

this is pure piracy and nothing more, though the United States has set a convenient precedence to invade and overthrow any government that they feel so Indiclined to.

putin was right "there is no rule of law" in the world anymore.
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[rahu]

]The likud and Netanyahu are changing the Israeli rabbinate from one with torahic scholars to one with kabbalist scholars .as the old torahic rabbis retire the new rabbi’s are all kabbalists.[/FONT][/SIZE]
Instead of being religiously inclusive under the torah, Israel is becoming a society ruled by schism and racism .

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With the rabbinate now made up of kabbalist, and Trump as president, netanyahu now wants to end the option of a Palestinian state, yet the Palestinians must accept Israels right to exist.

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[rahu]

as oddity has taken it upon herself to post that I am anti-Semitic and I assume pm various members that I am anti semitic.
I will use this thread to explain the origin of my views in this area.
I was going to ignore her slander as befits her, but I have noticed others, particularly the chatroom clones and bluebell have taken to slander and denigrate me for no reason.

my great grandmother was a ashkenazi kabbalist witch.
I never knew about her until my first Saturn return.my grand father was a atheists and never practices any religion. he was a revolutionary communist(or so the stories go) but gave up political activity before I was born.
I wondered about my greatgrandmother because her father was a Austrian prince and had bequeathed her and her husband,7 gold mines near Guanajuato mexico.
I has wondered how with her father of Austrian Hapsburg lineage could have daughter who was jewish.
after reading "holy blood holy grail" by biagent, I began to understand..it seems that the certain lines of European royalty have been add odds over the century trying to claim the royal house.
the Hapsburg, rulers of the holy roman empire for over 1000 years had a "hidden" jewish blood line as was acknowledged by the last crown prince of the holy roman empire, otto von Hapsburg, who died in 2012.

the second jewish line were the Merovingian dynastry that claimed to be from the tribe of Benjamin.this dynastry was the first monarchy of the catholic church. but the church did not make them kings, there were kings of the franks before the bishop of roman crowned them a protectors and kings of the catholic church in 488 ad. the were to be the eternal kings of rome but in 571, the bishop of rome allowed dragobert the II to be assassinated by associates of pepin the fat. this lead ultimately to the rise of his grandson Charlemagne as holy roman emperor. though this was not really true becaiuse there was no empire. the first real holy roman emperor was otto the great in 800 ad

so it made sense that I had a ashkenazi greatgrandmorther who was also the daughter of a Austrian prince, as the underlying house royal house of Europe had hidden jewish bloodlines.

my great grandmothers husband was a yaqui chief/shaman and this is likely why her family ,the villegas' ,assassinated my greatgrandfather when my grandfather was 5 years old. my greatgrandmother was told to leave mexico immediately or her two sons and her would be killed.

she was a strong woman as she had my grandfather when she was 48 and went on to have 10 children altogether.
it is hars to believe she waited til the age of 48 to start a family but all history about her is closed to me before 1898.

as a hapsburgh she still had ghreat connections and influence. after the battle of waterloo when the hapburgh empire was destroyed by napoleon, the Hapsburg slowly move their area of influence to Russian in the latter 19th century.
it was from these connections that my grandfather was iinvovled with correspondence with lenin and with his involvement of sending American movie money to mexico during the revolutionary times of the 1910-20.

most people do not realize that it was Hollywood that funded pancho villa ,the Mexican revolutionary. he was given advance to film his battles during the revolution. many of the deaths shown in his movie about those times were real deaths and not actors

so I have learned first hand some of the covert actions that history does not record and I have learned some of the inside belief systems of kabbalist.

my statements that have been construed to show I am anti semitic are slander and lies as kabbalist are allowed to lie to anyone who is not a member of their inner circle. and liars are attacking me as they can give no statements I have made that are anti semitic.

Through my family's history, I have seen how the powers that be have manipulated history through well chosen censorship.
One example is Ricardo Flores magnon.
He was a leftist Mexican writer in the teens and twenties of the 20th century. He set up in Los Angeles but in the mid 20s returned to Mexico only to be pulled off a train and shot. My grandfather had been Mignon's speech writer but for some reason missed the train. Family legends say 1,catholic nuns gave the secret return away. 2 my grandfather was shacked up and missed the train. But the real reason is that inspite of grandfathers revolutionary rhetoric, he was a agent of some covert society. He was assigned to not let Mignon back into Mexico alive.
In the late 60s I found a brief description of Mignon's death in a Spanish history book. But 20 years later I tried to research the topic again, and there was no referance to the train ride and excuetion of Mignon.
What was inserted into history was that there had been 2 Ricardo Flores magnons.
The "historical "magnon died in Fort Leavenworth prison. He had gone insane, so they said and he had asserted he was not Ricardo Flores magnon. He was beaten to death in prison. The body was so swollen and bruised when it was sent back to Mexico that a positive ID was impossible.
Here forces in the US wanted him dead but falsified history to protect my grandfather.
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[rahu]

as oddity and waybread are slandering me about being anti Semitic, lets see if they can accept the truth about some Jewish sect overt racism.
as I have Ashkenazi blood, I know this sect is extremely racists. ask any Sephardic jew and you will find out about the prejudice the Ashkenazi have against sephartic jews. it has only been in the last decade or so that Ashkenazi's will allow Sephardic to have there rituals in the same building.

Ehud olmert was convicted of bribery. he said he was convicted because he was Sephardic. the bribery charges were later reversed I belive.

then there is the case of the Ashkenazi racism against Ethiopian jews.
when Israel was created, the question of who was to be considered jewish was not answered. of course the Ashkenazi's were jewish but the right to returned for Ethiopian jews was block by the Ashkenazi's until the early 1990. when they were finally given the right of return, they celebrated and in 1992 a blood drive was organized to celebrate their repatriation to Israel. as reported in the new York times ,the racism was so prevalent that the collected blood was poured downed the gutters.
sinced then the Ethiopian jews have been given the modst menial and dirty work possible. they are being treated as the out caste. and after 20 years of disillusionment, the Ethiopian jews want to go back to Ethiopia but are blocked by the government and must remain "untouchables" in the land of their dreams and hopes. all because of Ashkenazi prejudice.

so those who slander me, as always turn a blind eye to their own racisms.

rahu